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I never considered it as a text that attempts to show how quantity is always a kind of quality, so no matter how much you do something, it won't change how you
by DiscourseFan 2y ago
I never considered it as a text that attempts to show how quantity is always a kind of quality, so no matter how much you do something, it won't change how you exist in the world unless you change how you do it. What people are really after with weed and psychedelics is that kind of qualitative change, especially at the level of consciousness. But with dependent origination, changing how you in particular perceive the world does not actually change the world that you are a part of, and therefore doesn't lead to qualitative change of experience. What must be done, instead, is to change the world. True liberation is absolute.
- 613style 2y ago> changing how you in particular perceive the world does not actually change the world that you are a part of It's impossible to change yourself without changing the world, because those two things are not separate. Further, much of the world exists only as abstract ideas in my mind. When I change how I relate to and perceive them, I do change them in every way that matters.
- utensil4778 2y agoSure, if you discount the fact that other people exist, are conscious, have their own experiences of the same world and also experience joy, sadness, love, and suffering. To assert that your perspective is the only thing that matters is to assert that nobody else matters.
- sim7c00 2y agoit is not the spoon which bends...
- DiscourseFan 2y agoIf by "you" you mean the totality of the universe that you are a part of, then changing "your" consciousness does change the world, but if you think of yourself as merely an individual subject--not a subject as substance--then nothing you do to "yourself" will lead to liberation, because others inability to find liberation creates a contradiction within your own.
- zer0tonin 2y agoI think you must have read another text. Literally none of what you said is mentioned in the diamond sutra.
- DiscourseFan 2y agoConsidering the authoritative copy of the Diamond Sutra was written in Chinese, I doubt I would be able to give any direct quotations