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Requiring account creation to view the program, even see any screenshots or view a description of how it works, will stop most people from proceeding. It immedi

Requiring account creation to view the program, even see any screenshots or view a description of how it works, will stop most people from proceeding. It immediately triggered my "user-hostile" alarm.

seeingnature 2y ago
I was going to try it but when presented with no explanation and an account sign up, clicked out. Great idea, could benefit from more upfront info.
alwa 2y ago
I feel like I’ve been seeing more and more of this lately. Most recently somebody talked to me about a genAI video firm, which doesn’t need to be mentioned by name but which had an elaborately produced brochureware kind of landing page—aspirational quotes, scroll-hijacking, the whole shebang. Now mind you, when I went to check it out I was motivated, since it was prompted by an IRL relationship. Not only did they require a signup to view anything about the product, but they required that you upgrade and pay before you were allowed go view any examples of what they have generated for themselves or other users. I still don’t know if the product is any good or not, and I probably never will. Is this a generational thing? Or is it some kind of wisdom getting passed around the “growth hacking” kinds of circles?
- Vegenoid 2y ago
  I'm guessing it's "growth-hacking" wisdumb. Presumably the logic is that it means that you have the emails of people who are interested in your product, both for metrics reasons and to be able to send them emails to keep them engaged. Maybe also with a dash of "if a user has created an account, they're more likely to feel invested and use the product"? I could be mistaken. Heck, it's even possible that it's good advice, but I doubt it. I'm guessing that this kind of thing prevents more new users than it hooks.
dontdoxxme 2y ago
Also without a demo the TOS has lots of words such as: “You must not access or use for any commercial purposes any part of the website or any services or materials available through the Website.” Fairly sure my work todos could be considered commercial purposes, so I don’t even want to risk trying it.
gnicholas 2y ago
This is also generally frowned up on for a "Show HN" post. HNers are supposed to be able to go and look at something and provide feedback — without paying or handing over an email address. Some posters solve this by creating a generic HN account or workaround, so that people can tour the system with less friction.
misswaterfairy 2y ago
Same here. As soon as I clicked "Yes, let's get stuff done" then saw the sign up page I immediately closed it. Simply because Foorr doesn't show me how it differs from every other to-do app out there, there's nothing trying to convince me to sign up. I'm not handing over my personal information just to find out. First impression: utter fail.

seeingnature 2y ago

I was going to try it but when presented with no explanation and an account sign up, clicked out. Great idea, could benefit from more upfront info.

alwa 2y ago

I feel like I’ve been seeing more and more of this lately. Most recently somebody talked to me about a genAI video firm, which doesn’t need to be mentioned by name but which had an elaborately produced brochureware kind of landing page—aspirational quotes, scroll-hijacking, the whole shebang. Now mind you, when I went to check it out I was motivated, since it was prompted by an IRL relationship. Not only did they require a signup to view anything about the product, but they required that you upgrade and pay before you were allowed go view any examples of what they have generated for themselves or other users. I still don’t know if the product is any good or not, and I probably never will. Is this a generational thing? Or is it some kind of wisdom getting passed around the “growth hacking” kinds of circles?

Vegenoid 2y ago
I'm guessing it's "growth-hacking" wisdumb. Presumably the logic is that it means that you have the emails of people who are interested in your product, both for metrics reasons and to be able to send them emails to keep them engaged. Maybe also with a dash of "if a user has created an account, they're more likely to feel invested and use the product"? I could be mistaken. Heck, it's even possible that it's good advice, but I doubt it. I'm guessing that this kind of thing prevents more new users than it hooks.

dontdoxxme 2y ago

Also without a demo the TOS has lots of words such as: “You must not access or use for any commercial purposes any part of the website or any services or materials available through the Website.” Fairly sure my work todos could be considered commercial purposes, so I don’t even want to risk trying it.

gnicholas 2y ago

This is also generally frowned up on for a "Show HN" post. HNers are supposed to be able to go and look at something and provide feedback — without paying or handing over an email address. Some posters solve this by creating a generic HN account or workaround, so that people can tour the system with less friction.

misswaterfairy 2y ago

Same here. As soon as I clicked "Yes, let's get stuff done" then saw the sign up page I immediately closed it. Simply because Foorr doesn't show me how it differs from every other to-do app out there, there's nothing trying to convince me to sign up. I'm not handing over my personal information just to find out. First impression: utter fail.