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“Half one” is archaic English, and common German, for 12:30. Similarly “my 27th year” just sounds archaic to me: I wonder if you went through a bunch of 19th ce
by mjmahone17 2y ago
“Half one” is archaic English, and common German, for 12:30. Similarly “my 27th year” just sounds archaic to me: I wonder if you went through a bunch of 19th century writing if you’d see ages more often be “Xth year” vs “X-1 years old”.
There may be something cultural that caused such a shift, like a change in how math or reading is taught (or even that it’s nearly universally taught, which changes how we think and speak because now a sizeable chunk of the population thinks in visually written words rather than sounds).
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- einherjae 2y agoIsn’t “half one” used as a short form of “half past one” these days, I.e. 01:30? That has been a source of confusion for someone used to the Germanic way.
- larusso 2y agoI had this exact topic with an Irish coworker who lives in Germany and has issues to convey the right time. For me as a German „half one“ is half of one so 12:30. Same for „Dreiviertel eins“ -> „threequarter one“ being 12:45 and „Viertel eins“ -> „quarter one“ being 12:15. To be fair the logic behind this is also under constant confusion as some parts of Germany rather use „viertel vor“ or „viertel nach“ -> „quarter to“ „quarter after“ and have no understanding of the three quarter business.
- beAbU 2y agoThe Irish like to say "half one" meaning "half past one". In my native timekeeping parlance "half een" means 12h30. Germanic/Dutch origin. So whenever I talk time with the locals here I repeat the time back in numerical style to avoid confusion. "The shop opens tomorrow at half ten". "Thanks, store opens at nine thirty. See you then." "No..."
- OJFord 2y agoIn the UK yes, I think not in AmE? At least I'm pretty sure they don't say 'quarter to' or 'quarter past', and do say 'a half after'. (I had some confused conversation with a bus driver once. Bizarre experience to have so much language barrier between two EFL speakers, in English!)
- Unbefleckt 2y agoHad no idea myself, my peers, my family and my community used archaic English.
- stavros 2y agoDo you say "half ten" to refer to 9:30? If so, you're using archaic English, yep!
- HPsquared 2y agoA lot of European languages say "I have x years" instead of "I am x years old". It emphasises the "milestone" nature, as in "I have x full years".