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Hello, one of the folks working on Ente Auth here. Thanks for putting us on the frontpage! To give some context, we built Auth for ourselves because we wanted

Hello, one of the folks working on Ente Auth here. Thanks for putting us on the frontpage! To give some context, we built Auth for ourselves because we wanted a product that was cross-platform, open source[1] and offered end-to-end encrypted backups[2]. Since launch[3], the product has undergone iterations[4][5]. Auth is now available on Android, iOS, Linux, Mac and Windows[6]. We also have a read-only companion app for the web[7]. Backups are end-to-end encrypted, optional and free. You can use all our apps (minus the web) without an account. You can also self-host[8] if you wish. Please let me know if you have any questions! [1]: https://github.com/ente-io/ente https://github.com/ente-io/ente [2]: https://ente.io/architecture https://ente.io/architecture [3]: https://ente.io/blog/auth/ https://ente.io/blog/auth/ [4]: https://ente.io/blog/auth-v2/ https://ente.io/blog/auth-v2/ [5]: https://ente.io/blog/auth-v3/ https://ente.io/blog/auth-v3/ [6]: https://github.com/ente-io/ente/releases?q=tag%3Aauth-v3 https://github.com/ente-io/ente/releases?q=tag%3Aauth-v3 [7]: https://auth.ente.io https://auth.ente.io [8]: https://help.ente.io/self-hosting/ https://help.ente.io/self-hosting/

smcleod 2y ago
That’s fantastic you can optionally self host. Well done!
jeanofthedead 2y ago
Any plans to release an Apple Watch app? That’s my one requirement for a 2FA app.
- vishnumohandas 2y ago
  Yes, this is on our roadmap: https://github.com/ente-io/ente/discussions/485 https://github.com/ente-io/ente/discussions/485
ecesena 2y ago
Out of curiosity, have you tested what happens if you buy a new iPhone and upgrade from old to new one? (Preferably no backup, just the new/standard upgrade procedure where you bring the new device close to the old one, and Apple does its magic.) The only reason why I use (and recommend) Authy is that when I get a new phone it just works, while other apps require to somehow open them and do some operation between old and new phone. If it works, happy to switch to an open alternative! (Asking about iPhone, but I assume Android folks would also be interested.)
- radicality 2y ago
  If you’re in the Apple/iOS ecosystem and want the syncing to happen via iCloud, you might as well use Apple’s built-in password manager which has support for 2FA codes.
  - birdman3131 2y ago
    Just because your in the Apple ecosystem does not mean your not outside it as well and want the crossplatform side.
    - AdamJacobMuller 2y ago
      Exactly. I use BitWarden for this reason.
  - ecesena 2y ago
    Oh wow, I missed the release. Will def test it. I've been using authy since 2017, anything I said above might need a refresh :)
- vishnumohandas 2y ago
  We have intentionally opted out of this[1][2] for now, since we did not want to create a dependency on iCloud for backups. So if you purchase a new device, you will either have to sign in to Ente Auth again (for E2EE sync), or export your codes from the older device, and import it to the newer device. [1]: https://github.com/ente-io/ente/blob/8b696b1242bce2f166ddd6a0efc61114bb9c051f/auth/lib/core/configuration.dart#L69-L71 https://github.com/ente-io/ente/blob/8b696b1242bce2f166ddd6a... [2]: https://github.com/mogol/flutter_secure_storage/blob/cb30953edc029dc4059b72700270b4cd3a3afade/flutter_secure_storage/lib/options/apple_options.dart#L21-L23 https://github.com/mogol/flutter_secure_storage/blob/cb30953...
  - ecesena 2y ago
    Thank you. FWIW, my need comes primarily from non-technical/inexperienced users. I can't tell my parents/many friends to remember to "sign into all these apps" as soon as they get a new phone, or they loose access to banks & co. Regardless I appreciate that at least you made a conscious decision.
jerrygoyal 2y ago
if i lose all my devices can i still recover 2fa accounts? I can do it in Authy with email and mobile verification.
- vishnumohandas 2y ago
  Yes, you can. Ente Auth backs up your codes, end-to-end encrypted. You can access your data on any device, at any time with your email address and password (/recovery key).
  - rdslw 2y ago
    Authy has one superb feature: you can switch a toggle to lick/unlock accessing a vault from new devices. quite handy and can further increase security (trading it of course with lack of recovery would you lost all your devices).
    - vishnumohandas 2y ago
      Interesting, thanks for sharing!
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bonjurkes 2y ago
First of all thanks for providing an alternative 2FA app on iOS platform that is open source. I wanted to be one of the users but when I tried to import my backup from Raivo your app just gives null point exception error. I sent an email to your support team and they said they will get back to me once they hear back more from devs, which was 2 weeks ago. For now I am using 2FAs but it would be great if I can get to try your app once importing works fine. Good luck!
- eviks 2y ago
  You could try to import in pieces and try different export formats, unfortunately Ente doesn't have a great parser, so some otp codes could break the import process
lelandbatey 2y ago
Is it possible to have ente on your phone (Android) synch using e.g. Dropbox, same as KeepassXC with it's password database?

smcleod 2y ago

That’s fantastic you can optionally self host. Well done!

jeanofthedead 2y ago

Any plans to release an Apple Watch app? That’s my one requirement for a 2FA app.

vishnumohandas 2y ago
Yes, this is on our roadmap: https://github.com/ente-io/ente/discussions/485 https://github.com/ente-io/ente/discussions/485

ecesena 2y ago

Out of curiosity, have you tested what happens if you buy a new iPhone and upgrade from old to new one? (Preferably no backup, just the new/standard upgrade procedure where you bring the new device close to the old one, and Apple does its magic.) The only reason why I use (and recommend) Authy is that when I get a new phone it just works, while other apps require to somehow open them and do some operation between old and new phone. If it works, happy to switch to an open alternative! (Asking about iPhone, but I assume Android folks would also be interested.)

radicality 2y ago
If you’re in the Apple/iOS ecosystem and want the syncing to happen via iCloud, you might as well use Apple’s built-in password manager which has support for 2FA codes.
- birdman3131 2y ago
  Just because your in the Apple ecosystem does not mean your not outside it as well and want the crossplatform side.
  - AdamJacobMuller 2y ago
    Exactly. I use BitWarden for this reason.
- ecesena 2y ago
  Oh wow, I missed the release. Will def test it. I've been using authy since 2017, anything I said above might need a refresh :)
vishnumohandas 2y ago
We have intentionally opted out of this[1][2] for now, since we did not want to create a dependency on iCloud for backups. So if you purchase a new device, you will either have to sign in to Ente Auth again (for E2EE sync), or export your codes from the older device, and import it to the newer device. [1]: https://github.com/ente-io/ente/blob/8b696b1242bce2f166ddd6a0efc61114bb9c051f/auth/lib/core/configuration.dart#L69-L71 https://github.com/ente-io/ente/blob/8b696b1242bce2f166ddd6a... [2]: https://github.com/mogol/flutter_secure_storage/blob/cb30953edc029dc4059b72700270b4cd3a3afade/flutter_secure_storage/lib/options/apple_options.dart#L21-L23 https://github.com/mogol/flutter_secure_storage/blob/cb30953...
- ecesena 2y ago
  Thank you. FWIW, my need comes primarily from non-technical/inexperienced users. I can't tell my parents/many friends to remember to "sign into all these apps" as soon as they get a new phone, or they loose access to banks & co. Regardless I appreciate that at least you made a conscious decision.

jerrygoyal 2y ago

if i lose all my devices can i still recover 2fa accounts? I can do it in Authy with email and mobile verification.

vishnumohandas 2y ago
Yes, you can. Ente Auth backs up your codes, end-to-end encrypted. You can access your data on any device, at any time with your email address and password (/recovery key).
- rdslw 2y ago
  Authy has one superb feature: you can switch a toggle to lick/unlock accessing a vault from new devices. quite handy and can further increase security (trading it of course with lack of recovery would you lost all your devices).
  - vishnumohandas 2y ago
    Interesting, thanks for sharing!

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bonjurkes 2y ago

First of all thanks for providing an alternative 2FA app on iOS platform that is open source. I wanted to be one of the users but when I tried to import my backup from Raivo your app just gives null point exception error. I sent an email to your support team and they said they will get back to me once they hear back more from devs, which was 2 weeks ago. For now I am using 2FAs but it would be great if I can get to try your app once importing works fine. Good luck!

eviks 2y ago
You could try to import in pieces and try different export formats, unfortunately Ente doesn't have a great parser, so some otp codes could break the import process

lelandbatey 2y ago

Is it possible to have ente on your phone (Android) synch using e.g. Dropbox, same as KeepassXC with it's password database?