> If instead we listened to what they were actually saying about the expansion of NATO toward their borders this conflict could have been avoided. Yes, we shou

> If instead we listened to what they were actually saying about the expansion of NATO toward their borders this conflict could have been avoided. Yes, we should have seen their invasion before it started and helped Ukraine defend against it better. Because, surely, you're not suggesting that we should have let Russia rape, murder and pillage Ukraine (and other countries) without any resistance?