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Would be interesting to know how they got a intact ATACMS. It was clear from the beginning that every weapon system used in Ukraine could and probably would la
by sharpshadow 2y ago
Would be interesting to know how they got a intact ATACMS.
It was clear from the beginning that every weapon system used in Ukraine could and probably would land on the black market, that’s why Israel didn’t provide any own weapon system fearing it would land in the hands of their enemies.
- Conasg 2y agoUsually it’s just a missile that belly-flopped due to a malfunction, and was then found and studied.
- justin66 2y agoIt's not inconceivable that a Russian counter-battery strike could force Ukrainian troops to flee (or kill them) but leave behind some intact equipment.
- dboreham 2y agoIf the US permitted ATACMS to be used in this theater, you can be 100% sure they know the Russians already have an ATACMS. So this is just propaganda.
- dmix 2y agoThey already have the replacement for ATACMS starting production so I don't think they are super concerned hiding a 35yr old missile
- simion314 2y ago>It was clear from the beginning that every weapon system used in Ukraine could and probably would land on the black market, that’s why Israel didn’t provide any own weapon system fearing it would land in the hands of their enemies. This is Zed propaganda/fake news , a soldier can't put a missile in his pocket and go home and exchange it for alcohol. I think the main concern is Ukrainians that are loyal to Kremlin and smuggle information witch is more easy then selling big stuff on the black market.
- galkk 2y agoWhat about tank? https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-soldier-defect-steal-tank-russia-maxim-likhachev-1921042#:~:text=A%20Ukrainian%20soldier%20who%20%22stole,state%20media%20reported%20on%20Thursday https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-soldier-defect-steal-tank-r....
- ben_w 2y agoGiven how many tanks Ukrainian farmers stole from Russian soldiers, this would not surprise me greatly. That said, the end of the first paragraph is "Russian state media reported on Thursday" — even after the ink is dry on the ultimate settlement of the peace negotiations that have not yet started, we won't know for sure how many stories like this are propaganda.
- galkk 2y agoBruh. The point of my answer was that there are sure ways to move something across front lines, if necessary > Given how many tanks Ukrainian farmers stole from Russian soldiers, this would not surprise me greatly. How many though? > we won't know for sure how many stories like this are propaganda.
- justin66 2y agoWith earnest effort reverse engineering the secrets of that defected tank, Russian engineers and technicians will soon learn the secrets of... the T-64. Bound to come in handy.
- simion314 2y agoRuzzia already has soviet tanks, and a Russian stole an helicopter and defected. But my imagination fails me to see how a soldiers is smuggling a missile, it won't fit in his pockets/ass and he can't ride it to Kremlin and they must be some good kilometers behind the font lines. so tell me how you imagine this happening ?
- galkk 2y ago
- llamaimperative 2y agoOh no, not our state of the art[1] missiles getting figured out[2] while defending an allied democratic state against an imperial despot! [1] SOTA as of 1991 [2] According to Kremlin propaganda
- Someone 2y agoI can’t find a claim in the article that they have an intact one. They get ones in various states of brokenness because Ukraine throws them towards them. For example, https://www.newsweek.com/russian-soldiers-atacms-attack-luhansk-video-1896412 https://www.newsweek.com/russian-soldiers-atacms-attack-luha... says “The source said the footage showed a "Ukrainian ATACMS strike, with 4 ATACMS, including one dud, hitting a Russian training area in Mozhnyakivka, Luhansk Oblast."”