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Next step: have a speed tracker on the car that will report speeding straight to the cops, no need for them to see you with a radar or anything like that. In g
by ermir 2y ago
Next step: have a speed tracker on the car that will report speeding straight to the cops, no need for them to see you with a radar or anything like that.
In general there's lots of politicians and "administrators" who salivate at tech like this that constrain people and make them manageable. I find these attempts very undignified and totalitarian.
- _Wintermute 2y agoYou're operating fast moving heavy machinery in a public space, an activity that kills thousands each year. If you want freedom then do it elsewhere.
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- redrove 2y ago> If you want freedom then do it elsewhere. EU in a nutshell.
- ermir 2y agoWell, why not have alcohol breath sensors in all cars? Why not have the car not start at all without the seatbelts being in place, and not just have the annoying alarm? Why not have the car stop going over 20 km/h if it's unregistered?
- akmarinov 2y agoOverall limiting cars to a maximum of 160 km/h seems like a good idea. Apart from some stretches of the Autobahn - there's not much reason cars should go that fast.
- TomK32 2y agoLess reason for them to accelerate like they do. 0-100 km/h in 5 seconds will kill people in a city if you do it by accident, which already happens.
- PartiallyTyped 2y agoCars these days can accelerate to 100 in < 2 seconds. Imho acceleration should also be limited. There’s absolutely no reason for that in cities.
- TomK32 2y agosome exotic cars do, but I was thinking of cars popular with young men who cause senseless accidents by treating cities roads as race tracks. A BMW 3-series is popular with them and is about 5 seconds 0-100.
- PartiallyTyped 2y agoTbh, I was thinking of SUVs and middle-aged men as they have access to high performing tanks — my father being one of them. I had an old bmw 320d; it did about 9s; and I think that was too much.
- TomK32 2y agoYou are almost right with your thinking expect those SUV owners are often also dad and thus the sons have access to far too powerful cars.
- perlgeek 2y agoI live in a small street, and at the crossing to the next big street, it's very hard to see the traffic from one of the sides. The only thing I can really do is creep forward until I get a glimpse into the traffic, and if it's clear, accelerate the hell out of it. So, at least for the first, let's say 30 to 50km/h, I'm very glad of the high torque and acceleration of my hybrid card. I'd be fine with a hard speed limit though. I'd be fine with limiting the Autobahn to 130km/h.
- PartiallyTyped 2y agoI’d argue that we should be limiting acceleration as well. I see no reason why a 2 tonne car should accelerate to 100km in less than 5 seconds, but here we are.
- TomK32 2y ago5 seconds is still too quick in my eyes, the current VW Golf can do this, the Mark 1 took 9 seconds. Why would you need this as a default? If it's an option that you have to toggle and it comes with a visible sign and the data tracker kicking in, that'd be okay.
- Detrytus 2y agoLimiting acceleration could be dangerous: you need it when overtaking slower vehicles (not necessary cars, it can be a tractor in rural areas).
- constantcrying 2y ago>Overall limiting cars to a maximum of 160 km/h seems like a good idea. Ridiculous. People use cars for things besides going from A to B. In Germany significant parts of the streets are without speed limit and you can easily go 200km/h+.
- akmarinov 2y agoOf the streets? No Of the Autobahn? Yes. All of it? No
- TomK32 2y agoThe speed limiter is enough, I'm sure that insurance companies will soon offer discounts if you submit those speed logs in case of accidents or in general with live-speed-tracking. The problem though remains: Too much horse power and it's particularly sad with young men not being in full control of those cars causing accidents of all sort. Here's a recent interview with a public prosecutor in Germany: https://archive.is/20240703123415/https://www.sueddeutsche.de/panorama/raser-unfall-autorennen-vermeiden-interview-oberamtsanwalt-lux.NCRPC26bCw3HTH8WeKkHJd https://archive.is/20240703123415/https://www.sueddeutsche.d...
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- HeckFeck 2y agoThis whole system seems set up like nagware. Having the car distract the motorist with alerts while driving will surely increase risks of accidents, as will the anger induced by the frustration of knowing that a machine is fighting him instead of working for him. Everyone except the managers hates micromanaging for good reason, it treats me like an idiot who cannot be trusted to make his own calls. And I know better than some remote manager the best choice to make in a given situation - especially while operating high speed machinery. There have been more than a few times on the road that flooring it was safer than slowing down. Absolute trash idea - even worse than Auto Idle Stop, I will ensure it is removed from any future car I purchase.
- TomK32 2y agoYour argument works fine until you remember that distraction, in the form of smartphone-usage during the drive, has risen to one of the top three causes of road accidents.
- cynicalsecurity 2y agoYou haven't read the article.
- ermir 2y agoSure I have, my objection is on the greater tendency for legislators to use technological means to constrain ordinary behavior. Today is a speed limiter, tomorrow is a embedded car snitch, or an automatic hate speech detector, or whatever else you can think of. They understood this in the 90s, why not today? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz4HEEiJuGo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz4HEEiJuGo
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