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84% of the global population are in low and middle income countries, and the vast majority of those people could have a significantly higher quality of living i

84% of the global population are in low and middle income countries, and the vast majority of those people could have a significantly higher quality of living in a place like Japan if they were given the neccesary political protections. 6 billion people is not infinity people, and not all of those people are willing or able to move to a place like Japan to try their luck. But the idea that immigration is anywhere close to an end is preposterous.

scotty79 2y ago
But the immigration seems to have triggered resurgence of fascism and populism worldwide. So while economically sustainable in theory it might be unsustainable for cultural reasons.
- falcor84 2y ago
  Culture can change. It's not an easy fight, but I would bet on economics beating culture in the long term.
- 0dayz 2y ago
  This is mainly due to blind trust in ideals instead of hard facts when it comes to immigration. European countries who took in a lot of Mena people have issues because they believe naively in a form of laissez faire.
pixl97 2y ago
Populations growth rates have fallen very fast around the world sometimes with in the span of one or two generations. The global fertility rate has fallen to 2.3. Sub Saharan Africa is one of the few places left with what we would consider large growth rates. Increased standards of living in these places we typically imported people from can quickly cut off this flow and put western nations at risk, whereas we thought this flow was unlimited. Add to this the cost of living in western countries has spiraled out of control recently, the idea that "Just move to X, things will be better" is fading from what it used to be.
123yawaworht456 2y ago
and will Japan remain Japan once their population gets replaced with a vibrant stew of MENA immigrants, friend?
- standardUser 2y ago
  Has anywhere remained anywhere after a couple hundred years of colonization, conquest and migration? This weird idea that populations are, or should be, eternal and unchanging is pure fantasy.
  - 123yawaworht456 2y ago
    will Japanese people approve of becoming a minority in their cities if you put it up for a vote?

scotty79 2y ago

But the immigration seems to have triggered resurgence of fascism and populism worldwide. So while economically sustainable in theory it might be unsustainable for cultural reasons.

falcor84 2y ago
Culture can change. It's not an easy fight, but I would bet on economics beating culture in the long term.
0dayz 2y ago
This is mainly due to blind trust in ideals instead of hard facts when it comes to immigration. European countries who took in a lot of Mena people have issues because they believe naively in a form of laissez faire.

pixl97 2y ago

Populations growth rates have fallen very fast around the world sometimes with in the span of one or two generations. The global fertility rate has fallen to 2.3. Sub Saharan Africa is one of the few places left with what we would consider large growth rates. Increased standards of living in these places we typically imported people from can quickly cut off this flow and put western nations at risk, whereas we thought this flow was unlimited. Add to this the cost of living in western countries has spiraled out of control recently, the idea that "Just move to X, things will be better" is fading from what it used to be.

123yawaworht456 2y ago

and will Japan remain Japan once their population gets replaced with a vibrant stew of MENA immigrants, friend?

standardUser 2y ago
Has anywhere remained anywhere after a couple hundred years of colonization, conquest and migration? This weird idea that populations are, or should be, eternal and unchanging is pure fantasy.
- 123yawaworht456 2y ago
  will Japanese people approve of becoming a minority in their cities if you put it up for a vote?