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AI and VR are both just getting started. If you aren't at least using AI to generate boiler plate code your already behind. Of course AI can make mistakes, bu

AI and VR are both just getting started. If you aren't at least using AI to generate boiler plate code your already behind. Of course AI can make mistakes, but it's going to change everything.

carapace 2y ago
s/your/you're/
- bravetraveler 2y ago
  I upvoted this from hidden because, in context, it tells several stories. The one I like is that speed and accuracy are related. Conclusions to be drawn from there. Normally I'd sigh at such a basic interaction and perhaps go the other way, but this was notable. A human in their free time is making a case to other humans about time-saving... yet couldn't be bothered to check their forms! All of this to what end?
  - carapace 2y ago
    (Thank you! It means a lot to me that someone "got it"! Cheers and well met.)
    - bravetraveler 2y ago
      Happy to fight the good fight :) One argument I'd like to leave against such 'pro AI' stances that started this thread (note: I edited the form for correctness): > If you aren't at least using AI to generate boiler plate code you're already behind. The time/effort taken to write boilerplate is inconsequential. Outsourcing it to AI feels like robbing myself of the "mental vegetables". Strength comes from struggle and all of that. While I'm writing the loop I'm shaking out other design details or 'feeling where the rubber meets the road'. It's a good feedback loop. Taking this away is squeezing a stone with no juice to give. I argue, given enough time, people outsourcing the basics to AI will find things less scientific and more magical. That overall could be a good thing... but perhaps not in R&D
hi-v-rocknroll 2y ago
VR is a zombie category like flying cars that rears its head every 10 years or so. If there were anything to it, it would already be a thing. Instead, it is mostly a comical MacGuffin of 80's and 90's sci-fi movies and sells a few widgets now and then like Meta Quest. Anyone remember VRML? Or Sega's canceled Sega VR? AR, OTOH, has immense, untapped potential to be ubiquitous and helpful albeit to a potentially intrusive degree if privacy isn't managed properly. The ambient, contextual-, and location-dependent helpfulness achievable of AR creates undeniable advantages. AI code tools cannot create much usefully-intricate, specific, or reliably correct at this point. It's helpful for completing predictable sequences like advanced code completion, but that's about the limit of it's utility right now. At this moment, wisdom and experience of good engineers cannot be substituted to create custom, reliable solutions, but this may gradually change at some point. Narrow AI will need to be progressively and iteratively tuned to make it more useful for specific point solutions, but there is almost zero hope of AGI ever being realized, much less a SkyNet or Johnny Number 5 scenario, without absurd computing infrastructure and ongoing electricity costs.
- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
  >there is almost zero hope of AGI ever being realized, much less a SkyNet or Johnny Number 5 scenario, without absurd computing infrastructure and ongoing electricity costs. Microsoft is constructing a mammoth data center at an inflation-adjusted cost comparable to the Apollo Program. We already know AGI is possible with 20 watts. It's only a matter of time before it is created on another medium.
  - hi-v-rocknroll 2y ago
    Doesn't matter. Meta and Microsoft are both doing stupid corporate shit. It's a total waste of resources and entropy. It's the equivalent of a nerd pissing contest. AGI doesn't apply to biological systems because it's not artificial by definition. You're falling into their fallacy that simulating neurons is going to be efficient in another form. Science has thus far shown it's very expensive and difficult when a neuron would be the simplest and best solution.

AI and VR are both just getting started. If you aren't at least using AI to generate boiler plate code your already behind. Of course AI can make mistakes, but it's going to change everything.

carapace 2y ago

s/your/you're/

bravetraveler 2y ago
I upvoted this from hidden because, in context, it tells several stories. The one I like is that speed and accuracy are related. Conclusions to be drawn from there. Normally I'd sigh at such a basic interaction and perhaps go the other way, but this was notable. A human in their free time is making a case to other humans about time-saving... yet couldn't be bothered to check their forms! All of this to what end?
- carapace 2y ago
  (Thank you! It means a lot to me that someone "got it"! Cheers and well met.)
  - bravetraveler 2y ago
    Happy to fight the good fight :) One argument I'd like to leave against such 'pro AI' stances that started this thread (note: I edited the form for correctness): > If you aren't at least using AI to generate boiler plate code you're already behind. The time/effort taken to write boilerplate is inconsequential. Outsourcing it to AI feels like robbing myself of the "mental vegetables". Strength comes from struggle and all of that. While I'm writing the loop I'm shaking out other design details or 'feeling where the rubber meets the road'. It's a good feedback loop. Taking this away is squeezing a stone with no juice to give. I argue, given enough time, people outsourcing the basics to AI will find things less scientific and more magical. That overall could be a good thing... but perhaps not in R&D

hi-v-rocknroll 2y ago

VR is a zombie category like flying cars that rears its head every 10 years or so. If there were anything to it, it would already be a thing. Instead, it is mostly a comical MacGuffin of 80's and 90's sci-fi movies and sells a few widgets now and then like Meta Quest. Anyone remember VRML? Or Sega's canceled Sega VR? AR, OTOH, has immense, untapped potential to be ubiquitous and helpful albeit to a potentially intrusive degree if privacy isn't managed properly. The ambient, contextual-, and location-dependent helpfulness achievable of AR creates undeniable advantages. AI code tools cannot create much usefully-intricate, specific, or reliably correct at this point. It's helpful for completing predictable sequences like advanced code completion, but that's about the limit of it's utility right now. At this moment, wisdom and experience of good engineers cannot be substituted to create custom, reliable solutions, but this may gradually change at some point. Narrow AI will need to be progressively and iteratively tuned to make it more useful for specific point solutions, but there is almost zero hope of AGI ever being realized, much less a SkyNet or Johnny Number 5 scenario, without absurd computing infrastructure and ongoing electricity costs.

HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
>there is almost zero hope of AGI ever being realized, much less a SkyNet or Johnny Number 5 scenario, without absurd computing infrastructure and ongoing electricity costs. Microsoft is constructing a mammoth data center at an inflation-adjusted cost comparable to the Apollo Program. We already know AGI is possible with 20 watts. It's only a matter of time before it is created on another medium.
- hi-v-rocknroll 2y ago
  Doesn't matter. Meta and Microsoft are both doing stupid corporate shit. It's a total waste of resources and entropy. It's the equivalent of a nerd pissing contest. AGI doesn't apply to biological systems because it's not artificial by definition. You're falling into their fallacy that simulating neurons is going to be efficient in another form. Science has thus far shown it's very expensive and difficult when a neuron would be the simplest and best solution.