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Well it depends which space they want to be taken seriously in. Currently the 741 is very poor when compared to any dGPU or Apple. It only favourably compares t

by dagmx 2y ago

Well it depends which space they want to be taken seriously in. Currently the 741 is very poor when compared to any dGPU or Apple. It only favourably compares to iGPUs. I believe they have three options 1. Say it’s meant to be like an iGPU, and work on supporting dGPUs to complement it. 2. Say that they want to compete with dGPUs/Apple and risk losing their mobile crown. Which is what Apple did in exchange for one design across all products. 3. Say they want to have a split product portfolio. A more desktop focused GPU for Snapdragon X with a more mobile centric one for 8xx

silisili 2y ago
I think it's going to be 3, but a split between mobile and laptop/desktop without any concern for competing with dGPUs. It makes no sense at all for them to. If they can give good enough, on par or better with current iGPUs, with a lower power usage and potentially even fanless, they're going to sell a billion of them. They'll be in every Chromebook in the world.
- hypercube33 2y ago
  They aren't gunning for Chromebook deployments...these are currently in business laptop models and AMD may have already beaten them in all fronts on some of these per dollar other than ultralight and video playback duration. Lenovo has a A model that can do 16 hours and light gaming. more importantly it runs x86 apps full speed. I agree these likely will take over the sub $1000 market if given the chance but they are shooting at $1500-2000
  - silisili 2y ago
    Interesting. Seems like a huge missed opportunity there, as those outsell everything else by quite a margin. Perhaps they'll expand into both ends like they do phones, eg the 4xx on the low end and 8xx on the high end.
    - RussianCow 2y ago
      Presumably the margins on Chromebook are terrible compared to those of mid to high end laptops. I don't blame them for wanting to start with the higher margin market and eventually work down.
- dagmx 2y ago
  They aren’t fighting for Chromebook territory with this though. All their comparisons are to the MacBook Air and mid-high end windows laptops because that’s the market they’re gunning for. These are meant to be $1k-2k devices.
- pjmlp 2y ago
  Chromebooks are basically the US school systems, Google employees, and little else.
  - oldpersonintx 2y ago
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HeWhoLurksLate 2y ago
IIRC, on the LTT video on the topic they mentioned that there were like 8 extra PCIe lanes that could theoretically get run to a dGPU

by dagmx 2y ago

silisili 2y ago

I think it's going to be 3, but a split between mobile and laptop/desktop without any concern for competing with dGPUs. It makes no sense at all for them to. If they can give good enough, on par or better with current iGPUs, with a lower power usage and potentially even fanless, they're going to sell a billion of them. They'll be in every Chromebook in the world.

hypercube33 2y ago
They aren't gunning for Chromebook deployments...these are currently in business laptop models and AMD may have already beaten them in all fronts on some of these per dollar other than ultralight and video playback duration. Lenovo has a A model that can do 16 hours and light gaming. more importantly it runs x86 apps full speed. I agree these likely will take over the sub $1000 market if given the chance but they are shooting at $1500-2000
- silisili 2y ago
  Interesting. Seems like a huge missed opportunity there, as those outsell everything else by quite a margin. Perhaps they'll expand into both ends like they do phones, eg the 4xx on the low end and 8xx on the high end.
  - RussianCow 2y ago
    Presumably the margins on Chromebook are terrible compared to those of mid to high end laptops. I don't blame them for wanting to start with the higher margin market and eventually work down.
dagmx 2y ago
They aren’t fighting for Chromebook territory with this though. All their comparisons are to the MacBook Air and mid-high end windows laptops because that’s the market they’re gunning for. These are meant to be $1k-2k devices.
pjmlp 2y ago
Chromebooks are basically the US school systems, Google employees, and little else.
- oldpersonintx 2y ago
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HeWhoLurksLate 2y ago

IIRC, on the LTT video on the topic they mentioned that there were like 8 extra PCIe lanes that could theoretically get run to a dGPU