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Its very hard to beat Dell Wyse 3030 LT with USB attached disks. - https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2023/04/10/silent-fanless-dell-wyse-3030-lt-freebsd-server/ h

Its very hard to beat Dell Wyse 3030 LT with USB attached disks. - https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2023/04/10/silent-fanless-dell-wyse-3030-lt-freebsd-server/ https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2023/04/10/silent-fanless-del... I use that and the costs are about $20-25 for a used Dell Wyse 3030 and $60 for used 5TB 2.5 HDD from Seagate in USB 3.0 case. Then the power bills will also be tiny as it draw about 3.8W when idle and 10.3 W with CPU and disks stressed to maximum. The only limitation is 'only' 2GB RAM - but with ZFS ARC set to 32MB minimum and 64MB maximum RAM is not an issue. % grep arc /etc/sysctl.conf vfs.zfs.arc.min=33554432 vfs.zfs.arc.max=67108864 Regards.

metadat 2y ago
Note: S.M.A.R.T. status info can't be read from USB attached drives. You have no idea if they're throwing errors indicating imminent doom.
- vermaden 2y ago
  On FreeBSD getting S.M.A.R.T. status over USB drive works without any problem: # smartctl -a /dev/da0 smartctl 7.4 2023-08-01 r5530 [FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 amd64] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-23, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Western Digital Elements / My Passport (USB, AF) Device Model: WDC WD50NDZW-11A8JS1 Serial Number: WD-WXP2EA07UYLA LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 2be7aef41 Firmware Version: 01.01A01 User Capacity: 5,000,947,523,584 bytes [5.00 TB] Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical Rotation Rate: 5400 rpm Form Factor: 2.5 inches TRIM Command: Available, deterministic Device is: In smartctl database 7.3/5528 ATA Version is: ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 5 SATA Version is: SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s) Local Time is: Sat May 11 10:26:04 2024 CEST SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity was never started. Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: ( 4680) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x1b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test supported. No Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 560) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x30b5) SCT Status supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 253 253 021 Pre-fail Always - 3508 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 096 096 000 Old_age Always - 4626 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 083 083 000 Old_age Always - 12789 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 139 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 58 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 192 192 000 Old_age Always - 24665 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 086 083 000 Old_age Always - 66 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t] Selective Self-tests/Logging not supported The above only provides legacy SMART information - try 'smartctl -x' for more
  - metadat 2y ago
    That's interesting, it appears I may have been slightly mistaken. As per https://www.smartmontools.org/wiki/USB https://www.smartmontools.org/wiki/USB: > To access SMART functionality, smartmontools must be able to send native ATA or NVMe commands directly to the drive. For USB devices, at least the following conditions must be met: > The USB bridge provides an ATA or NVMe pass-through command. > This command is supported by smartmontools. > The operating system provides a SCSI pass-through I/O-control which works through its USB-layer. > SCSI support is implemented in the operating system interface of smartmontools. So in some cases, it may work depending on the USB chipset capabilities. I haven't gotten it to work on my old supermicro.. yet :) Cheers.

metadat 2y ago

Note: S.M.A.R.T. status info can't be read from USB attached drives. You have no idea if they're throwing errors indicating imminent doom.

vermaden 2y ago
On FreeBSD getting S.M.A.R.T. status over USB drive works without any problem: # smartctl -a /dev/da0 smartctl 7.4 2023-08-01 r5530 [FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 amd64] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-23, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Western Digital Elements / My Passport (USB, AF) Device Model: WDC WD50NDZW-11A8JS1 Serial Number: WD-WXP2EA07UYLA LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 2be7aef41 Firmware Version: 01.01A01 User Capacity: 5,000,947,523,584 bytes [5.00 TB] Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical Rotation Rate: 5400 rpm Form Factor: 2.5 inches TRIM Command: Available, deterministic Device is: In smartctl database 7.3/5528 ATA Version is: ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 5 SATA Version is: SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s) Local Time is: Sat May 11 10:26:04 2024 CEST SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity was never started. Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: ( 4680) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x1b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test supported. No Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 560) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x30b5) SCT Status supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 253 253 021 Pre-fail Always - 3508 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 096 096 000 Old_age Always - 4626 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 083 083 000 Old_age Always - 12789 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 139 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 58 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 192 192 000 Old_age Always - 24665 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 086 083 000 Old_age Always - 66 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t] Selective Self-tests/Logging not supported The above only provides legacy SMART information - try 'smartctl -x' for more
- metadat 2y ago
  That's interesting, it appears I may have been slightly mistaken. As per https://www.smartmontools.org/wiki/USB https://www.smartmontools.org/wiki/USB: > To access SMART functionality, smartmontools must be able to send native ATA or NVMe commands directly to the drive. For USB devices, at least the following conditions must be met: > The USB bridge provides an ATA or NVMe pass-through command. > This command is supported by smartmontools. > The operating system provides a SCSI pass-through I/O-control which works through its USB-layer. > SCSI support is implemented in the operating system interface of smartmontools. So in some cases, it may work depending on the USB chipset capabilities. I haven't gotten it to work on my old supermicro.. yet :) Cheers.