>nobody's arguing that there are cases where you'd physically destroy a device, while cryptographic erasure of the data is not required as well. I am very expl

>nobody's arguing that there are cases where you'd physically destroy a device, while cryptographic erasure of the data is not required as well. I am very explicitly saying cryptographic erasure is not required if you are following physical destruction standards (in ISO 27001 and NIST 800-88, at least).