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one of my favourite frags 'Kouros' by YSL uses ambergris (or synthesised) shame that over time the formula has changed so much. as per descriptions..it really u

• armitron 2y ago
  It's not ambergris that gives Kouros its characteristic pissy notes, but civet (also real oakmoss and strong aldehydes) ingredients all of which they toned down in the early 2000s and then completely removed in 2008 (Loreal era). The Kouros you can buy these days (white instead of metallic shoulders), is heavy on coriander with barely any "musk" and bears little resemblance to the "scent of the gods" of the 80s and 90s. I still have multiple bottles from the 90s which are as good as ever, together with Kouros Fraicheur from the same era which is another Pierre Bourdon masterpiece. YSL perfumes from the 80s and 90s were legendary.
  • an_aparallel 2y ago
    thanks for the correction :) I would kill for a bottle of Fraische...is that similar/same to Kouros Sport?
    • armitron 2y ago
      It's Kouros with no aldehydes, less sage, no coriander/cinammon/leather, retaining the civet but a bit different: the pissy notes are now even sharper but the "fecal" notes are gone, more citrus/fruit (some say pineapple but I can't pick that up) and a similar legendary warm/soapy/amber drydown, what you'd expect an ancient Greek temple full of burning incense to smell like. It's definitely in the same league as Kouros, and much more wearable in the summer. Kouros Sport (which I also have) is not as good, as it doesn't project as much and all the notes are greatly diminished as if they've been diluted.
  • epapsiou 2y ago
    Not just Civet, the original had Costus Root too.
• anjel 2y ago
  Google: perfume reformulated carcinogen