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I'll start :3 alias: darigo interests: odd operating systems like templeos and Genera, far right politics, far left politics, far center politics, latin am

by sdsd 2y ago

I'll start :3 alias: darigo interests: odd operating systems like templeos and Genera, far right politics, far left politics, far center politics, latin america, fencing (HEMA and olympic), self improvement language(s): english, spanish link to something you think is cool: webrings like https://webring.xxiivv.com/#131 contact info: ~motluc-nammex (iykyk) or run this Racket code: (string-append (list->string (map (λ (c) (integer->char (- (char->integer c) 1000))) (string->list "ќѐэЖђэћѝћЖщўёєэћ"))) "@gmail.com")

glitchcrab 2y ago
Dumb question; what are far centre politics? Surely by definition centrist politics can't be far - far just puts them as left or right.
- jll29 2y ago
  To ensure any piece of text is "far center" (= unbiased), check out https://biasscanner.org https://biasscanner.org - if text you paste in does not change after pressing the green button, it's unbiased, otherwise biased sentenced are highlighted in yellow, and hovering over them gives you an explanation, about which of 27 bias types was discovered.
  - Booktrope 2y ago
    I think of far-centerist as extremely unideological. To me, ideologies are systematically organized collections of ideas, often hierarchically, with core ideas (or assumptions) given a paramount or supreme position. They almost all provide a certain level of insight and huge errors, because no system of ideas describes the world in a complete or fully accurate way. So, a far-centrist in my view is open to using ideas from whatever ideology, or some that associate with no ideology, for what they're worth. If by far center, you mean unbiased, well, we're all biased to some degree. Actually it's very hard not to be quite biased in some way, whether ideologically or stylistically, or any of the more gross forms of bias most of us have to wrestle with, being human. A bias scanner can be useful in identifying bias, but you can be ideological and non-biased, in which case, you're just using the bias scanner to reduce your bias. That's a good thing to do, but I'd call it, a kind of self-moderation, which might attenuate partisanship but for sure isn't necessarily centrist at all.
- sdsd 2y ago
  That's not a dumb question! If anything, my wording was dumb :) The more usual term is "radical centrism" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism). I would say someone like Richard Hanana or rationalists like Scott Alexander have a centrism that is much more radical than someone who merely doesn't have strong political opinions. For a more parodial take on radical centrism, jreg's youtube channel talks about it a lot. He's an anticentrist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58IOy41snKU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58IOy41snKU
  - glitchcrab 2y ago
    This makes much more sense now; thank you!
- animuchan 2y ago
  I actually love this definition! A "centrist" when talking about a layperson might suggest them having an amorphous, indifferent position. In our here local politics, a "centrist" politician is strongly assumed to be a political prostitute, a puppet in search of a generous master. I take a "far centrist" to mean compromise-seeking in a deliberate way, which is a fun concept to consider.
  - wenc 2y ago
    My circles, centrist politics just mean "complex" case-by-case politics. By this definition, most reasonable people are centrist. We are forced to pick a team to get the numbers but our positions can and do differ from the party line.
lagniappe 2y ago
That looks like an urbit name, right? I've been wanting to try it out and have access to a small amount of currency. What do you suggest?
- sdsd 2y ago
  Yep! It's actually free to get a ship: https://redhorizon.com/ https://redhorizon.com/ Feel free to email me using the email address from my post and I can show you some good apps, introduce you to people, etc. It's fun.

by sdsd 2y ago

glitchcrab 2y ago

Dumb question; what are far centre politics? Surely by definition centrist politics can't be far - far just puts them as left or right.

jll29 2y ago
To ensure any piece of text is "far center" (= unbiased), check out https://biasscanner.org https://biasscanner.org - if text you paste in does not change after pressing the green button, it's unbiased, otherwise biased sentenced are highlighted in yellow, and hovering over them gives you an explanation, about which of 27 bias types was discovered.
- Booktrope 2y ago
  I think of far-centerist as extremely unideological. To me, ideologies are systematically organized collections of ideas, often hierarchically, with core ideas (or assumptions) given a paramount or supreme position. They almost all provide a certain level of insight and huge errors, because no system of ideas describes the world in a complete or fully accurate way. So, a far-centrist in my view is open to using ideas from whatever ideology, or some that associate with no ideology, for what they're worth. If by far center, you mean unbiased, well, we're all biased to some degree. Actually it's very hard not to be quite biased in some way, whether ideologically or stylistically, or any of the more gross forms of bias most of us have to wrestle with, being human. A bias scanner can be useful in identifying bias, but you can be ideological and non-biased, in which case, you're just using the bias scanner to reduce your bias. That's a good thing to do, but I'd call it, a kind of self-moderation, which might attenuate partisanship but for sure isn't necessarily centrist at all.
sdsd 2y ago
That's not a dumb question! If anything, my wording was dumb :) The more usual term is "radical centrism" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism). I would say someone like Richard Hanana or rationalists like Scott Alexander have a centrism that is much more radical than someone who merely doesn't have strong political opinions. For a more parodial take on radical centrism, jreg's youtube channel talks about it a lot. He's an anticentrist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58IOy41snKU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58IOy41snKU
- glitchcrab 2y ago
  This makes much more sense now; thank you!
animuchan 2y ago
I actually love this definition! A "centrist" when talking about a layperson might suggest them having an amorphous, indifferent position. In our here local politics, a "centrist" politician is strongly assumed to be a political prostitute, a puppet in search of a generous master. I take a "far centrist" to mean compromise-seeking in a deliberate way, which is a fun concept to consider.
- wenc 2y ago
  My circles, centrist politics just mean "complex" case-by-case politics. By this definition, most reasonable people are centrist. We are forced to pick a team to get the numbers but our positions can and do differ from the party line.

lagniappe 2y ago

That looks like an urbit name, right? I've been wanting to try it out and have access to a small amount of currency. What do you suggest?

sdsd 2y ago
Yep! It's actually free to get a ship: https://redhorizon.com/ https://redhorizon.com/ Feel free to email me using the email address from my post and I can show you some good apps, introduce you to people, etc. It's fun.