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What a bad faith comment. How is a new version announcement a dupe? If you don’t care then you don’t have to comment.

troydavis 2y ago
Don’t rely on my assessment, go read https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9775868 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9775868. If you disagree, don’t tell me, suggest an improvement to Dan.
- CooCooCaCha 2y ago
  These are different articles being posted, not dupes.
  - troydavis 2y ago
    Thanks for editing out the line where you told me to go get my brain checked.
    - CooCooCaCha 2y ago
      Not sure what you’re talking about. Perhaps you saw a different comment.
      - deleted 2y ago
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- timeon 2y ago
  > don’t tell me You are the one initiative here.
- littlestymaar 2y ago
  You've pointing a a “Show HN”, it obviously doesn't apply to other kinds of posts (or are you gonna limit OpenAI's announcement links to once a year too ? ;)
pvg 2y ago
How is a new version announcement a dupe? Lengthy explainer here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23071428 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23071428
- littlestymaar 2y ago
  According to this, the submission is fine: it's a major version announcement, unlike the examples given in the post, with significant changes, which rule out the “the diff between Foo 1.3.3 and the last time Foo came out is not enough to support an interestingly different discussion”
  - pvg 2y ago
    'Major' to the developers and users but the focus is on the total HN audience to whom it's neither major nor minor, it's simply another Bevy release post and there have been several of these very recently. It's a pretty straightforward release dupe, all sorts of seemingly 'major' releases from huge projects get categorized and moderated like that all the time. E.g. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=true&query=node.js%20release&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=tru... The brief frontpage life of a couple of the highly upvoted ones: https://hnrankings.info/37701860/ https://hnrankings.info/37701860/ https://hnrankings.info/37889790/ https://hnrankings.info/37889790/
    - littlestymaar 2y ago
      Then why are you linking to a post where dang spends lots of tome explaining how the criteria is “Whether or not it contains significant new information (SNI)” if you believe this criteria isn't relevant? Because there's absolutely zero doubt that this release matches this criteria.
      - pvg 2y ago
        I didn't say anything of the sort so I don't understand the question. The post looks like a completely routine release dupe to me and you can check that yourself by searching for your favourite projects with the search box at the bottom of the page. Both of the things you pasted say exactly the opposite of what you're implying, when read in their context Here's "SNI": That's one reason I'm using a silly acronym: SNI! — to convey that it's a specialized use of those words. When we say things like "this is not significant new information, so we're treating this post as a dupe", or even the gentlest, most watered-down and tiptoey version of that language, there are always people who feel aggrieved on the project's behalf, as if we're putting it down or belittling the hard work of its devs. This explanation is for those readers. It's a made up term because it's a weird, made-up local meaning, it doesn't mean 'someone who uses the project might think it's significant'. So that's why I'm linking it, because it matches this submission very well.

Don’t rely on my assessment, go read https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9775868 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9775868. If you disagree, don’t tell me, suggest an improvement to Dan.

CooCooCaCha 2y ago
These are different articles being posted, not dupes.
- troydavis 2y ago
  Thanks for editing out the line where you told me to go get my brain checked.
  - CooCooCaCha 2y ago
    Not sure what you’re talking about. Perhaps you saw a different comment.
    - deleted 2y ago
      [deleted]
timeon 2y ago
> don’t tell me You are the one initiative here.
littlestymaar 2y ago
You've pointing a a “Show HN”, it obviously doesn't apply to other kinds of posts (or are you gonna limit OpenAI's announcement links to once a year too ? ;)

pvg 2y ago

How is a new version announcement a dupe? Lengthy explainer here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23071428 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23071428

littlestymaar 2y ago
According to this, the submission is fine: it's a major version announcement, unlike the examples given in the post, with significant changes, which rule out the “the diff between Foo 1.3.3 and the last time Foo came out is not enough to support an interestingly different discussion”
- pvg 2y ago
  'Major' to the developers and users but the focus is on the total HN audience to whom it's neither major nor minor, it's simply another Bevy release post and there have been several of these very recently. It's a pretty straightforward release dupe, all sorts of seemingly 'major' releases from huge projects get categorized and moderated like that all the time. E.g. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=true&query=node.js%20release&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=tru... The brief frontpage life of a couple of the highly upvoted ones: https://hnrankings.info/37701860/ https://hnrankings.info/37701860/ https://hnrankings.info/37889790/ https://hnrankings.info/37889790/
  - littlestymaar 2y ago
    Then why are you linking to a post where dang spends lots of tome explaining how the criteria is “Whether or not it contains significant new information (SNI)” if you believe this criteria isn't relevant? Because there's absolutely zero doubt that this release matches this criteria.
    - pvg 2y ago
      I didn't say anything of the sort so I don't understand the question. The post looks like a completely routine release dupe to me and you can check that yourself by searching for your favourite projects with the search box at the bottom of the page. Both of the things you pasted say exactly the opposite of what you're implying, when read in their context Here's "SNI": That's one reason I'm using a silly acronym: SNI! — to convey that it's a specialized use of those words. When we say things like "this is not significant new information, so we're treating this post as a dupe", or even the gentlest, most watered-down and tiptoey version of that language, there are always people who feel aggrieved on the project's behalf, as if we're putting it down or belittling the hard work of its devs. This explanation is for those readers. It's a made up term because it's a weird, made-up local meaning, it doesn't mean 'someone who uses the project might think it's significant'. So that's why I'm linking it, because it matches this submission very well.