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From polish perspective, a nazis told you you are subhuman and treat you like it. Soviets told you they are your best friend while torturing your brother and u

From polish perspective, a nazis told you you are subhuman and treat you like it. Soviets told you they are your best friend while torturing your brother and using you cousin to snitch on you. You pick which oppression is worse - overt or covert. Objectively soviets did way more damage and set Eastern Europe decades back. Under nazis you knew who was the enemy, under soviet everyone was paranoid who the enemy is. Its still debating which one of your limbs to cut off.

lazide 2y ago
Eh, I’d argue the only reason Eastern Europe might consider the impact of communism worse than Nazi’ism is because Nazi’ism flamed out quickly. So ‘stabbed with a knife once’ instead of ‘punched in the face daily for decades’. Can you imagine how shitty it would have been if Germany had won WW2? My guess is 1/4 of the existing population would have survived. The only reason it wasn’t (quite) that bad is because they didn’t have the time to settle in and only murdered people they could easily find while on their way to the front.
- me_me_me 2y ago
  I am not trying to make a case who was worse. But that under nazis it would be nazis punching, under soviets it would be your neighbor under command of soviets. Soviets insidiousness had additional layer that was actively destroying national trust/cohesion and instilling culture of fear and snitching. Stazi vs Gestapo approaches.
  - lazide 2y ago
    A lot of the death toll for Jews in Eastern Europe was from local ‘auxiliaries’ to the Nazi Einsatzgruppens [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Einsatzgruppen https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Einsatzgruppen]. If they had more time (and weren’t fighting a war at the time) the same would have happened but more directly murderous. Frankly, it’s pretty crazy that they distracted themselves from a massive war (which had quickly turned to a war of survival/attrition) to round up and murder people in areas they had already conquered just because of religious affiliation. But psychos are gonna psycho.

lazide 2y ago

Eh, I’d argue the only reason Eastern Europe might consider the impact of communism worse than Nazi’ism is because Nazi’ism flamed out quickly. So ‘stabbed with a knife once’ instead of ‘punched in the face daily for decades’. Can you imagine how shitty it would have been if Germany had won WW2? My guess is 1/4 of the existing population would have survived. The only reason it wasn’t (quite) that bad is because they didn’t have the time to settle in and only murdered people they could easily find while on their way to the front.

me_me_me 2y ago
I am not trying to make a case who was worse. But that under nazis it would be nazis punching, under soviets it would be your neighbor under command of soviets. Soviets insidiousness had additional layer that was actively destroying national trust/cohesion and instilling culture of fear and snitching. Stazi vs Gestapo approaches.
- lazide 2y ago
  A lot of the death toll for Jews in Eastern Europe was from local ‘auxiliaries’ to the Nazi Einsatzgruppens [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Einsatzgruppen https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Einsatzgruppen]. If they had more time (and weren’t fighting a war at the time) the same would have happened but more directly murderous. Frankly, it’s pretty crazy that they distracted themselves from a massive war (which had quickly turned to a war of survival/attrition) to round up and murder people in areas they had already conquered just because of religious affiliation. But psychos are gonna psycho.