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> GUI by their very nature usually make "simple things easy, and difficult things impossible". Creating an Active Directory forest was traditionally done via a

> GUI by their very nature usually make "simple things easy, and difficult things impossible". Creating an Active Directory forest was traditionally done via a GUI wizard. I would say that makes a very complex task easy, where-as creating it via CLI requires some amount of knowledge, making something otherwise easy "difficult" as you need to know what the CLI parameters are asking for (GUI explains it in plain <localized language>), _and_ you need to know what the proper cmdlet is, leading to difficulty in discovery. Server Manager starts automatically after logging into Windows Server for the first time, presenting the user with a two-click method to start the deployment of AD (and some more clicks for the wizard itself). This lets anyone, from an SMB one-person shop to the largest company in the world (who is that?) deploy AD in a matter of minutes. It's empowering. Equating Win Admins with chickens is rather disrespectful and/or elitist. "Don't get mad, bro!" doesn't absolve one of their statement. I've written PowerShell modules in C# for SharePoint Server. I continue to use the click-click-next-finish GUI for certain tasks. Does that make me a troglodyte? [0] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/addsdeployment/install-addsforest?view=windowsserver2022-ps#example-1-install-a-new-forest https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/addsdepl...

Joel_Mckay 2y ago
The point was things like AD are not really transparent to the end user, and thus difficult to handle in a CLI outside of a utility (usually need privileged MS insider OS API documentation). As a side note, exposing a desktop environment in a server role is still a problem 30 years later (GUI usually slowly leak memory over time.) Note chickens are fairly aggressive little creatures, and through the power of Cortana could easily masquerade as an admin. Thus, one has to be careful when you see sharp peckers. Have a wonderful day, =3
- nullindividual 2y ago
  > thus difficult to handle in a CLI outside of a utility (usually need privileged MS insider OS API documentation) There's a CLI command for it! What are you talking about with regards to APIs needed to do the particular task I mentioned? > (GUI usually slowly leak memory over time.) No, no, no, no. Please don't make up false statements to try to "prove a point". You're just being disrespectful to be disrespectful. You're disrespectful of many talented individuals in the industry. For shame.
  - Joel_Mckay 2y ago
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Joel_Mckay 2y ago

The point was things like AD are not really transparent to the end user, and thus difficult to handle in a CLI outside of a utility (usually need privileged MS insider OS API documentation). As a side note, exposing a desktop environment in a server role is still a problem 30 years later (GUI usually slowly leak memory over time.) Note chickens are fairly aggressive little creatures, and through the power of Cortana could easily masquerade as an admin. Thus, one has to be careful when you see sharp peckers. Have a wonderful day, =3

nullindividual 2y ago
> thus difficult to handle in a CLI outside of a utility (usually need privileged MS insider OS API documentation) There's a CLI command for it! What are you talking about with regards to APIs needed to do the particular task I mentioned? > (GUI usually slowly leak memory over time.) No, no, no, no. Please don't make up false statements to try to "prove a point". You're just being disrespectful to be disrespectful. You're disrespectful of many talented individuals in the industry. For shame.
- Joel_Mckay 2y ago
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