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I think it's really close-minded to stereotype millions of trans people and treat them like a monolith. Culture shapes behavior sure, but trans people globally

by drekk 2y ago

I think it's really close-minded to stereotype millions of trans people and treat them like a monolith. Culture shapes behavior sure, but trans people globally operate under similar constraints. Whether or not you consider yourself part of the global or <insert country> LGBTQ+ community is pretty irrelevant to bigots. There's no way for you to appease or become "respectable" in their eyes, even if you throw trans people under the bus. You're always gonna be a f*g to them.

financltravsty 2y ago
Perhaps your version of bigots, but I can handle the ones I interact with much better personally with a different approach than -- paraphrasing -- "fuck all bigots." I think the absolutionist path is wrong. I don't care about the respect or acknowledgment of the monolith of the "other." I do care about the people in my community and those I interact with on a regular basis. In that vein, I have found it useful to not be so inflexible about things. The majority of people are open to getting along if you get along with them. The rest are either working from a memory of bad experiences or have just simply been surrounded too long in a dogma they've adopted as their own. But these are not intractable problems. What is an almost intractable problem is having all of my efforts be made moot, when a bunch of hell-raisers with nothing else on their mind besides "me and my problems" decide to make noise and drive even greater decisiveness. I would like for Western individualism and cultural imperialism and disintegration to leave me and my people the fuck alone. I don't need your help or your ideas or to be saved from my foolishness -- thank you -- I'm doing well with my own devices.
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dartharva 2y ago
> but trans people globally operate under similar constraints Wrong. Absolutely not. There is nothing similar between the lives of a trans person in the Middle East or South Asia and those in the West.
- dragonwriter 2y ago
  > There is nothing similar between the lives of a trans person in the Middle East or South Asia and those in the West. I don't have first hand knowledge, but actual trans people I've heard from who have lived in both South Asia and the West and are in community with trans people on both sides of that divide do not echo that sentiment, and particularly this upthread idea, "These are not trans people like you see in the anglosphere", has been attributed to a combination of a extremely similar (but with different local names used) process of third-sexing in both South Asian and anglo cultures plus orientalism applied by anglo observers to South Asian cultures and the third-sexing going on within it.

by drekk 2y ago

financltravsty 2y ago

Perhaps your version of bigots, but I can handle the ones I interact with much better personally with a different approach than -- paraphrasing -- "fuck all bigots." I think the absolutionist path is wrong. I don't care about the respect or acknowledgment of the monolith of the "other." I do care about the people in my community and those I interact with on a regular basis. In that vein, I have found it useful to not be so inflexible about things. The majority of people are open to getting along if you get along with them. The rest are either working from a memory of bad experiences or have just simply been surrounded too long in a dogma they've adopted as their own. But these are not intractable problems. What is an almost intractable problem is having all of my efforts be made moot, when a bunch of hell-raisers with nothing else on their mind besides "me and my problems" decide to make noise and drive even greater decisiveness. I would like for Western individualism and cultural imperialism and disintegration to leave me and my people the fuck alone. I don't need your help or your ideas or to be saved from my foolishness -- thank you -- I'm doing well with my own devices.

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dartharva 2y ago

> but trans people globally operate under similar constraints Wrong. Absolutely not. There is nothing similar between the lives of a trans person in the Middle East or South Asia and those in the West.

dragonwriter 2y ago
> There is nothing similar between the lives of a trans person in the Middle East or South Asia and those in the West. I don't have first hand knowledge, but actual trans people I've heard from who have lived in both South Asia and the West and are in community with trans people on both sides of that divide do not echo that sentiment, and particularly this upthread idea, "These are not trans people like you see in the anglosphere", has been attributed to a combination of a extremely similar (but with different local names used) process of third-sexing in both South Asian and anglo cultures plus orientalism applied by anglo observers to South Asian cultures and the third-sexing going on within it.