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As someone extremely logic and programming oriented, I -wish- I'd met someone like that. I'm just not an idea guy, apparently. If the idea was truly good so m

As someone extremely logic and programming oriented, I -wish- I'd met someone like that. I'm just not an idea guy, apparently. If the idea was truly good so much so you believed in it, it was a heck of an offer tbh.

light_triad 2y ago
The problem with this setup is that having the idea is only the starting point. You will need to iterate, talk to customers, improve the solution for years while you learn more about the market. Even if the idea is truly good all the value is in the execution and acting on non obvious information from your customers. Anyone who isn’t committed to this long and uncertain process probably shouldn’t be a co-founder.
raincole 2y ago
> If the idea was truly good so much so you believed in it, it was a heck of an offer tbh. Perhaps. But in the past 15 years I've never seen such a good idea. If one is going to take 50% I'd expect them to be a really good salesman at least.
jaggederest 2y ago
I'll give you any one of 3 or 4 ideas right now, if you want them. They're ideas I'd develop if I had the time, energy and brainpower. I've got personal connections for you too, if you want them, people who need the product. I won't even ask 50%, heck, 5% sounds fine by me. My experience has been that, while that is useful, it's by no means sufficient to lead to a complete and useful tool. But I'd absolutely take that deal any day of the week, from the "idea" side of the fence. Imagine if you did it 20 times - quite a nice portfolio.
- silisili 2y ago
  The ideas are important, but remember the idea guy also was to run the company. That's a ton of work, too. In any event, while I appreciate the offer, I'm now too old and domesticated to work on it. I guess my comment should have said I'd have loved to met someone like that in my early 20s, when I had more free time and my brain worked better :).
  - jaggederest 2y ago
    Well, in an honest sense, that's kind of what YC's matching program does. I'm working for a company I found on there right now. It's a much different experience from job searching but it's full of people with ideas. Half or more of them are complete nonsense but any decent engineer should be able to sift the gold from the dross.
    - RangerScience 2y ago
      Do you have some tips for getting started on there? I poked on a few months ago, but wasn't able to make enough sense of it to get started. I think I just didn't find the right entry points?
      - jaggederest 2y ago
        Book meetings with people who seem interesting, don't judge a book by its cover. Fill out your profile in a pretty detailed way, you'll get better matches if you specify what you're looking for. If you're a technical person, you're going to have your choice, I gather many of the people on there are not technical.
  - ggeorgovassilis 2y ago
    > but remember the idea guy also was to run the company Company of 2 where neither receives a salary. > That's a ton of work, too. In this case, I really, really don't think so.
  - latexr 2y ago
    > The ideas are important, but remember the idea guy also was to run the company. That's a ton of work, too. Someone who thinks of themselves as “an idea guy” and that that is worth 50% is delusional to a level I wouldn’t trust them to run the company.
- RangerScience 2y ago
  Can I hit you up for one those in September if my current thing doesn't work out? Completely serious.
  - jaggederest 2y ago
    Sure thing, goes for folks reading this too.

light_triad 2y ago

The problem with this setup is that having the idea is only the starting point. You will need to iterate, talk to customers, improve the solution for years while you learn more about the market. Even if the idea is truly good all the value is in the execution and acting on non obvious information from your customers. Anyone who isn’t committed to this long and uncertain process probably shouldn’t be a co-founder.

raincole 2y ago

> If the idea was truly good so much so you believed in it, it was a heck of an offer tbh. Perhaps. But in the past 15 years I've never seen such a good idea. If one is going to take 50% I'd expect them to be a really good salesman at least.

jaggederest 2y ago

I'll give you any one of 3 or 4 ideas right now, if you want them. They're ideas I'd develop if I had the time, energy and brainpower. I've got personal connections for you too, if you want them, people who need the product. I won't even ask 50%, heck, 5% sounds fine by me. My experience has been that, while that is useful, it's by no means sufficient to lead to a complete and useful tool. But I'd absolutely take that deal any day of the week, from the "idea" side of the fence. Imagine if you did it 20 times - quite a nice portfolio.

silisili 2y ago
The ideas are important, but remember the idea guy also was to run the company. That's a ton of work, too. In any event, while I appreciate the offer, I'm now too old and domesticated to work on it. I guess my comment should have said I'd have loved to met someone like that in my early 20s, when I had more free time and my brain worked better :).
- jaggederest 2y ago
  Well, in an honest sense, that's kind of what YC's matching program does. I'm working for a company I found on there right now. It's a much different experience from job searching but it's full of people with ideas. Half or more of them are complete nonsense but any decent engineer should be able to sift the gold from the dross.
  - RangerScience 2y ago
    Do you have some tips for getting started on there? I poked on a few months ago, but wasn't able to make enough sense of it to get started. I think I just didn't find the right entry points?
    - jaggederest 2y ago
      Book meetings with people who seem interesting, don't judge a book by its cover. Fill out your profile in a pretty detailed way, you'll get better matches if you specify what you're looking for. If you're a technical person, you're going to have your choice, I gather many of the people on there are not technical.
- ggeorgovassilis 2y ago
  > but remember the idea guy also was to run the company Company of 2 where neither receives a salary. > That's a ton of work, too. In this case, I really, really don't think so.
- latexr 2y ago
  > The ideas are important, but remember the idea guy also was to run the company. That's a ton of work, too. Someone who thinks of themselves as “an idea guy” and that that is worth 50% is delusional to a level I wouldn’t trust them to run the company.
RangerScience 2y ago
Can I hit you up for one those in September if my current thing doesn't work out? Completely serious.
- jaggederest 2y ago
  Sure thing, goes for folks reading this too.