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There was a PR to change references of he to they, or similar thinking the writing was by a non-native English speaker. The PR was aimed at inclusivity. The res

There was a PR to change references of he to they, or similar thinking the writing was by a non-native English speaker. The PR was aimed at inclusivity. The response was that politics are not welcome there. A legit seeming concern is that anything can be political in the eyes of the lead dev. Is support for screen readers part of a political agenda? In an effort to avoid drama, drama was invited. This doesn’t seem likely to be a welcoming place for some that would otherwise contribute.

Tao3300 2y ago
Except screen reader support is an actual usability concern. I found the PR: > To prevent this, remove `anon` from the `wheel` group and they will no longer be able to run `/bin/su`. That's a terrible change, since "they" is plural and seems to refer to the group. It's a low quality PR.
uyzstvqs 2y ago
> The response was that politics are not welcome there. This is the ultimate response. Huge respect to the lead dev. And this is very political. "They" is plural, it's usage in singular form is fringe, only very recent and originates from within political activism. For the majority of English speakers this is incorrect, and will remain incorrect as the belief system associated with it's usage is fundementally wrong and incompatible with their world view.
- sumuyuda 2y ago
  This is false, singular they existed since the 14th century, says right on Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they
- locopati 2y ago
  they is inclusive and can refer to a singular unknown binary gender or to someone who is nonbinary. language is fluid... it changes.
teddyh 2y ago
The dev responds: “I have absolutely nothing against gender neutral language. I am however against outsiders doing drive-by PRs with ideological motivations. If a regular contributor hade made these edits, I wouldn’t have thought anything of it. Could I have communicated this better in 2021? You bet.” — <https://x.com/awesomekling/status/1808294414101467564 https://x.com/awesomekling/status/1808294414101467564>

Tao3300 2y ago

Except screen reader support is an actual usability concern. I found the PR: > To prevent this, remove `anon` from the `wheel` group and they will no longer be able to run `/bin/su`. That's a terrible change, since "they" is plural and seems to refer to the group. It's a low quality PR.

uyzstvqs 2y ago

> The response was that politics are not welcome there. This is the ultimate response. Huge respect to the lead dev. And this is very political. "They" is plural, it's usage in singular form is fringe, only very recent and originates from within political activism. For the majority of English speakers this is incorrect, and will remain incorrect as the belief system associated with it's usage is fundementally wrong and incompatible with their world view.

sumuyuda 2y ago
This is false, singular they existed since the 14th century, says right on Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they
locopati 2y ago
they is inclusive and can refer to a singular unknown binary gender or to someone who is nonbinary. language is fluid... it changes.

teddyh 2y ago

The dev responds: “I have absolutely nothing against gender neutral language. I am however against outsiders doing drive-by PRs with ideological motivations. If a regular contributor hade made these edits, I wouldn’t have thought anything of it. Could I have communicated this better in 2021? You bet.” — <https://x.com/awesomekling/status/1808294414101467564 https://x.com/awesomekling/status/1808294414101467564>