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Normal people do enjoy the same immunity from liability. Put up a Wordpress blog and the same rights that protect Facebook and Twitter protect you when someone

by krapp 2y ago

Normal people do enjoy the same immunity from liability. Put up a Wordpress blog and the same rights that protect Facebook and Twitter protect you when someone posts a comment.

Simulacra 2y ago
Unless the hosting company or a company like Cloudflare decides to cancel the wordpress site. I guess in theory as long as your Internet service provider is willing to give you a connection, you could host a local website. I guess.
- krapp 2y ago
  You make it seem as if this is a common occurrence but I'm only aware of it happening with extremist content, it isn't a problem for 99% of people. And if it does happen, extremists can find other hosts, as they often do. That isn't a first amendment issue it's a business relationship issue. In a free society, businesses can't be forced to have you as a customer.
  - efitz 2y ago
    Last I saw, the word “extremist” wasn’t in the first amendment. And in any case it’s highly subjective.
    - krapp 2y ago
      You're the last person who should be making an argument from the first amendment, given that the first amendment explicitly allows private platforms to do what you're opposed to them doing. You literally started this subthread with a thesis that the first amendment as written wasn't sufficient for modern society, and I don't see the words "corporation" or "algorithm" in it, either.
      - efitz 2y ago
        No, the first amendment allows PEOPLE the right of free speech. The core of my argument is that corporations themselves are NOT people. The individuals who work for (or own stock in) a corporation are people and can do what they want; they just shouldn’t be allowed to use the money and power of the corporation to advance their own agendas.
efitz 2y ago
Not true- as an individual you are liable for everything you do. Incorporation shields personal assets from corporate liability and usually shields corporate officers, and in any case corporate officers usually have officers & directors insurance, so they are largely unaffected by lawsuits. Not to mention the sheer scale difference- having to fight a lawsuit can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars; most individuals can’t afford to fight legally, either offensively or defensively, like most corporations can.

by krapp 2y ago

Normal people do enjoy the same immunity from liability. Put up a Wordpress blog and the same rights that protect Facebook and Twitter protect you when someone posts a comment.

Simulacra 2y ago

Unless the hosting company or a company like Cloudflare decides to cancel the wordpress site. I guess in theory as long as your Internet service provider is willing to give you a connection, you could host a local website. I guess.

krapp 2y ago
You make it seem as if this is a common occurrence but I'm only aware of it happening with extremist content, it isn't a problem for 99% of people. And if it does happen, extremists can find other hosts, as they often do. That isn't a first amendment issue it's a business relationship issue. In a free society, businesses can't be forced to have you as a customer.
- efitz 2y ago
  Last I saw, the word “extremist” wasn’t in the first amendment. And in any case it’s highly subjective.
  - krapp 2y ago
    You're the last person who should be making an argument from the first amendment, given that the first amendment explicitly allows private platforms to do what you're opposed to them doing. You literally started this subthread with a thesis that the first amendment as written wasn't sufficient for modern society, and I don't see the words "corporation" or "algorithm" in it, either.
    - efitz 2y ago
      No, the first amendment allows PEOPLE the right of free speech. The core of my argument is that corporations themselves are NOT people. The individuals who work for (or own stock in) a corporation are people and can do what they want; they just shouldn’t be allowed to use the money and power of the corporation to advance their own agendas.

efitz 2y ago

Not true- as an individual you are liable for everything you do. Incorporation shields personal assets from corporate liability and usually shields corporate officers, and in any case corporate officers usually have officers & directors insurance, so they are largely unaffected by lawsuits. Not to mention the sheer scale difference- having to fight a lawsuit can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars; most individuals can’t afford to fight legally, either offensively or defensively, like most corporations can.