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You should also be reminded about the internet. After the dotcom bubble it was extremely common to hear it outright dismissed as never being useful for anything

You should also be reminded about the internet. After the dotcom bubble it was extremely common to hear it outright dismissed as never being useful for anything. Sometimes the future just gets here before we're ready for it.

glitchc 2y ago
Repeat after me: An LLM is not AI. The internet enabled a whole new world of possible applications. It's unlikely this or even the next upgrade to ML will get there. If we get to AGI, sure, that's grpund-breaking, but we're still a few steps removed from that.
- TeMPOraL 2y ago
  Repeat after me: "AI hype" is not like Bitcoin hype, it's like Dot-com boom. Generative models are already changing how people live and work. Ignore the grifters, and ignore the entrepreneurs. Look at civilians, regular folks, and watch how it impacts them.
  - glitchc 2y ago
    Oh the belief is so strong! Wouldn't it be great if this were true.
    - TeMPOraL 2y ago
      It's not hard to have strong beliefs about something that's real.
  - pphysch 2y ago
    To be fair to Bitcoin, the world's largest economic bloc is actively building an alternative to USD/Western banks for international settlements, with blockchain technology. It doesn't have anything to do with the libertarian vision of BTC but it's the same technical concept.
  - SoftTalker 2y ago
    I see you saying this all over this topic and yet I don't know anyone who uses AI for anything real. I've never used it once for anything, and I work in tech. The only people I know who use AI are kids who use it to do their homework for them. I'm sure they love it, but it's hardly a good thing. It's like hiring someone to go to the gym for you, as far as I can see.
- llm_trw 2y ago
  >Repeat after me: An LLM is not AI. They are more intelligent than the average person I deal with on a daily basis. The one thing us meat bags have going for us is that we have bodies and can do things.
  - pixl97 2y ago
    And with the advances in robotics recently, who knows how long we're going to hold on to this monopoly.
  - sfink 2y ago
    > They are more intelligent than the average person I deal with on a daily basis. No they aren't. They are differently intelligent. Which includes being more "intelligent" in some ways, and vastly less in others. It is an all too common mistake to infer an LLM's capability based on what it would mean if a human could produce the same output. But it's not the same thing at all. A human that could produce the quality of many LLM outputs I've seen would be a person with superintelligence (and supercreativity, for that matter). But a human who is constrained to only the output that an LLM is capable of would be an untrustworthy idiot. What's interesting to me is looking at the human+LLM combos that have recently entered the world. (As in, everyone who is regularly using good quality LLMs.) What are they capable of? Hopefully they'll be at least as intelligent as a regular human, though some of the articles on people blindly accepting LLM hallucinations do make me wonder.
- apitman 2y ago
  > An LLM is not AI Good luck with that genie
threeseed 2y ago
> After the dotcom bubble it was extremely common to hear it outright dismissed as never being useful for anything eBay, Amazon, Google, Yahoo etc were all around at the time and making serious money. Not sure who those people were but it was very obvious to most that the internet was here to stay.

glitchc 2y ago

Repeat after me: An LLM is not AI. The internet enabled a whole new world of possible applications. It's unlikely this or even the next upgrade to ML will get there. If we get to AGI, sure, that's grpund-breaking, but we're still a few steps removed from that.

TeMPOraL 2y ago
Repeat after me: "AI hype" is not like Bitcoin hype, it's like Dot-com boom. Generative models are already changing how people live and work. Ignore the grifters, and ignore the entrepreneurs. Look at civilians, regular folks, and watch how it impacts them.
- glitchc 2y ago
  Oh the belief is so strong! Wouldn't it be great if this were true.
  - TeMPOraL 2y ago
    It's not hard to have strong beliefs about something that's real.
- pphysch 2y ago
  To be fair to Bitcoin, the world's largest economic bloc is actively building an alternative to USD/Western banks for international settlements, with blockchain technology. It doesn't have anything to do with the libertarian vision of BTC but it's the same technical concept.
- SoftTalker 2y ago
  I see you saying this all over this topic and yet I don't know anyone who uses AI for anything real. I've never used it once for anything, and I work in tech. The only people I know who use AI are kids who use it to do their homework for them. I'm sure they love it, but it's hardly a good thing. It's like hiring someone to go to the gym for you, as far as I can see.
llm_trw 2y ago
>Repeat after me: An LLM is not AI. They are more intelligent than the average person I deal with on a daily basis. The one thing us meat bags have going for us is that we have bodies and can do things.
- pixl97 2y ago
  And with the advances in robotics recently, who knows how long we're going to hold on to this monopoly.
- sfink 2y ago
  > They are more intelligent than the average person I deal with on a daily basis. No they aren't. They are differently intelligent. Which includes being more "intelligent" in some ways, and vastly less in others. It is an all too common mistake to infer an LLM's capability based on what it would mean if a human could produce the same output. But it's not the same thing at all. A human that could produce the quality of many LLM outputs I've seen would be a person with superintelligence (and supercreativity, for that matter). But a human who is constrained to only the output that an LLM is capable of would be an untrustworthy idiot. What's interesting to me is looking at the human+LLM combos that have recently entered the world. (As in, everyone who is regularly using good quality LLMs.) What are they capable of? Hopefully they'll be at least as intelligent as a regular human, though some of the articles on people blindly accepting LLM hallucinations do make me wonder.
apitman 2y ago
> An LLM is not AI Good luck with that genie

threeseed 2y ago

> After the dotcom bubble it was extremely common to hear it outright dismissed as never being useful for anything eBay, Amazon, Google, Yahoo etc were all around at the time and making serious money. Not sure who those people were but it was very obvious to most that the internet was here to stay.