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> popular slogans like "The masters will be back!" Ahem. WTF? As I've already said, Russians don't care and don't think in such terms. No slogans. The rest o

> popular slogans like "The masters will be back!" Ahem. WTF? As I've already said, Russians don't care and don't think in such terms. No slogans. The rest of the logorrhea invokes "не говори гоп, пока не перепрыгнешь". Don't do the stuff you peddle.

mopsi 2y ago
> Russians don't care and don't think in such terms. That's a lie and you know it. Variations of it like "We can show it again!" (that is, rape our way to Berlin) are in very widespread use among the Russian public and represent exactly the way most Russians think. Revanchism is the cornerstone of Putin's Russia, and that is also clearly present in your constant complaining how Russia has been humiliated and unfairly treated, and how it is entitled to anything more than it currently has, while the truth is that western nations spent a lot of money to relieve the humanitarian disaster that came from your own long-term mismanagement that you now try to pin on the Americans. You are - without any shame - biting the hand that fed you.
- racional 2y ago
  Hey, can you point to some live instances for these fun quotes ("The masters will be back!", "We can show it again!")? Particularly from anyone public and notable? Original Russian is fine; no need to translate.
  - thriftwy 2y ago
    "We can show it again" definitely exists https://avatars.dzeninfra.ru/get-zen_doc/4600043/pub_623f22779b8bdd06a2ff632a_623f239668f18b608531ad1d/scale_1200 https://avatars.dzeninfra.ru/get-zen_doc/4600043/pub_623f227... The problem is that it does not concern Eastern Europeans in any way.
  - mopsi 2y ago
    I'll compile them at some point.
- thriftwy 2y ago
  As you can see, I am polite to you and you use that opportunity to invoke the most grave insults you can think of. Russians did indeed win World War Two as a part of victorious Allied coalition. The "raped their way to Berlin" is represents a completely undeserved slur. The German army did not consist of fertile women but of seasoned and well-armed German males who invaded Russia previously (under Meth as we've just learned) and they had to be killed first. The Germany after the atrocities that they have done was at complete mercy of winners, who in their wisdom and kindness has chosen to spare it. We didn't have to. The only way Russians may care about Eastern Europe is extinguishing the sources of such unpleasant noises.
  - mopsi 2y ago
    > The "raped their way to Berlin" is represents a completely undeserved slur. It does not. The war memorial that Russians erected in central Berlin is still colloquially known as "the tomb of the unknown rapist". The number of people raped by Soviet forces is estimated between 1 and 2 million, among them many well-known people, such as the wife of Helmut Kohl, raped when she was 12. At least 100 000 people were raped in Berlin alone, aged "from 8 to 80", as one Russian war correspondent put it, and often died in the process due to blood loss, were murdered or committed suicide thereafter. Victims were not only German civilians, but also from Polish, Belarussian, Ukrainian and other nationalities who had been brought to Germany as slave labor. War correspondents like Vasily Grossman have recorded vivid descriptions of the gang rapes and other depravity; I believe it was Grossman who described a German village - whatever house he looked into, each had women on beds, dead, with dried pools of blood between legs. And the typical response from Russians is that of yours: how they should be thankful that you didn't rape even more. You have the audacity to call it kindness. And of course, anyone who dares to remind of this is making "unpleasant noises" and should be "extinguished". We can all see in Ukraine what that means. Murder, torture and systematic rape once again. A lot of elderly people in Europe are disturbed more than the rest by reports of Russian conduct in Ukraine because they remember it from their own youth. Despite their limited income, they are some of the most generous sponsors of aid to Ukraine.
    - thriftwy 2y ago

mopsi 2y ago

> Russians don't care and don't think in such terms. That's a lie and you know it. Variations of it like "We can show it again!" (that is, rape our way to Berlin) are in very widespread use among the Russian public and represent exactly the way most Russians think. Revanchism is the cornerstone of Putin's Russia, and that is also clearly present in your constant complaining how Russia has been humiliated and unfairly treated, and how it is entitled to anything more than it currently has, while the truth is that western nations spent a lot of money to relieve the humanitarian disaster that came from your own long-term mismanagement that you now try to pin on the Americans. You are - without any shame - biting the hand that fed you.

racional 2y ago
Hey, can you point to some live instances for these fun quotes ("The masters will be back!", "We can show it again!")? Particularly from anyone public and notable? Original Russian is fine; no need to translate.
- thriftwy 2y ago
  "We can show it again" definitely exists https://avatars.dzeninfra.ru/get-zen_doc/4600043/pub_623f22779b8bdd06a2ff632a_623f239668f18b608531ad1d/scale_1200 https://avatars.dzeninfra.ru/get-zen_doc/4600043/pub_623f227... The problem is that it does not concern Eastern Europeans in any way.
- mopsi 2y ago
  I'll compile them at some point.
thriftwy 2y ago
As you can see, I am polite to you and you use that opportunity to invoke the most grave insults you can think of. Russians did indeed win World War Two as a part of victorious Allied coalition. The "raped their way to Berlin" is represents a completely undeserved slur. The German army did not consist of fertile women but of seasoned and well-armed German males who invaded Russia previously (under Meth as we've just learned) and they had to be killed first. The Germany after the atrocities that they have done was at complete mercy of winners, who in their wisdom and kindness has chosen to spare it. We didn't have to. The only way Russians may care about Eastern Europe is extinguishing the sources of such unpleasant noises.
- mopsi 2y ago
  > The "raped their way to Berlin" is represents a completely undeserved slur. It does not. The war memorial that Russians erected in central Berlin is still colloquially known as "the tomb of the unknown rapist". The number of people raped by Soviet forces is estimated between 1 and 2 million, among them many well-known people, such as the wife of Helmut Kohl, raped when she was 12. At least 100 000 people were raped in Berlin alone, aged "from 8 to 80", as one Russian war correspondent put it, and often died in the process due to blood loss, were murdered or committed suicide thereafter. Victims were not only German civilians, but also from Polish, Belarussian, Ukrainian and other nationalities who had been brought to Germany as slave labor. War correspondents like Vasily Grossman have recorded vivid descriptions of the gang rapes and other depravity; I believe it was Grossman who described a German village - whatever house he looked into, each had women on beds, dead, with dried pools of blood between legs. And the typical response from Russians is that of yours: how they should be thankful that you didn't rape even more. You have the audacity to call it kindness. And of course, anyone who dares to remind of this is making "unpleasant noises" and should be "extinguished". We can all see in Ukraine what that means. Murder, torture and systematic rape once again. A lot of elderly people in Europe are disturbed more than the rest by reports of Russian conduct in Ukraine because they remember it from their own youth. Despite their limited income, they are some of the most generous sponsors of aid to Ukraine.
  - thriftwy 2y ago