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I really hate when someone writes a time + dst/pst/cet/whatever, rather than using utc, or even at least adding the utc time additionally.

skissane 2y ago
Yeah, timezone abbreviations are problematic because how am I suppose to remember what time zone offset “EST” is? Here in Australia, we have “EST” too, but ours is UTC+10 not UTC-I forget
- josephg 2y ago
  You can look it up. Or ask Google “time now in PST”. (“Pacific standard time” - which means San Francisco, obviously. It’s not like other people live near the Pacific Ocean). But there’s PT (pacific time), as well as PST and PDT (pacific standard and daylight savings time) if you need to be specific with whether or not daylight savings is happening. EST, according to Google, is the east coast of America when daylight savings is not happening. For Sydney and Melbourne, you want AEST / AEDT / AET depending on if you want to specify Australian east coast standard, daylight savings or current time (which changes depending on the date). It’s all hilariously exhausting to keep track of. Simple enough you think you can remember it, but complex enough you will miss your meeting even though you checked twice because the calendar was set to the wrong timezone and it didn’t matter until today. The relative time between Australia and California changes 4 times a year by 1 hour, depending on the local daylight savings time in both countries. I hate it.
  - skissane 2y ago
    > EST, according to Google, is the east coast of America when daylight savings is not happening. For Sydney and Melbourne, you want AEST / AEDT / AET Although AEST/AEDT are probably more common-in part to avoid confusion with American EST/EDT-people use EST/EDT for the Australian time zones too - random example: https://www.support.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/systemmaintenance.nsf/index/system_maintenance https://www.support.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/systemmaintenanc... Some computer systems (probably designed by Americans) want timezones to have abbreviations but insist they can only have three letters, so in those systems the Australian timezones have three letters. I definitely remember seeing EST meaning UTC+10 on Unix systems before
  - jimbobthrowawy 2y ago
    I try to refer to local time in an area I'm not in as <location>-time rather than the timezone's canonical name to avoid this kind of confusion. Then use a world clock to tell when that is. e.g. "That livestream should start at 4:30pm Vancouver time."

skissane 2y ago

Yeah, timezone abbreviations are problematic because how am I suppose to remember what time zone offset “EST” is? Here in Australia, we have “EST” too, but ours is UTC+10 not UTC-I forget

josephg 2y ago
You can look it up. Or ask Google “time now in PST”. (“Pacific standard time” - which means San Francisco, obviously. It’s not like other people live near the Pacific Ocean). But there’s PT (pacific time), as well as PST and PDT (pacific standard and daylight savings time) if you need to be specific with whether or not daylight savings is happening. EST, according to Google, is the east coast of America when daylight savings is not happening. For Sydney and Melbourne, you want AEST / AEDT / AET depending on if you want to specify Australian east coast standard, daylight savings or current time (which changes depending on the date). It’s all hilariously exhausting to keep track of. Simple enough you think you can remember it, but complex enough you will miss your meeting even though you checked twice because the calendar was set to the wrong timezone and it didn’t matter until today. The relative time between Australia and California changes 4 times a year by 1 hour, depending on the local daylight savings time in both countries. I hate it.
- skissane 2y ago
  > EST, according to Google, is the east coast of America when daylight savings is not happening. For Sydney and Melbourne, you want AEST / AEDT / AET Although AEST/AEDT are probably more common-in part to avoid confusion with American EST/EDT-people use EST/EDT for the Australian time zones too - random example: https://www.support.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/systemmaintenance.nsf/index/system_maintenance https://www.support.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/systemmaintenanc... Some computer systems (probably designed by Americans) want timezones to have abbreviations but insist they can only have three letters, so in those systems the Australian timezones have three letters. I definitely remember seeing EST meaning UTC+10 on Unix systems before
- jimbobthrowawy 2y ago
  I try to refer to local time in an area I'm not in as <location>-time rather than the timezone's canonical name to avoid this kind of confusion. Then use a world clock to tell when that is. e.g. "That livestream should start at 4:30pm Vancouver time."