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Meanwhile, the iPhone app is still so unreliable, I wouldn't sign up for Protonmail again today if I wasn't already in it. Pity, because on desktop - and, when

Meanwhile, the iPhone app is still so unreliable, I wouldn't sign up for Protonmail again today if I wasn't already in it. Pity, because on desktop - and, when it works, on mobile, it works great. I really like the company. Switching email addresses has so much friction - maybe I should keep a notebook of everyone who has my address so I can let them know of my new address.

lucasyvas 2y ago
Which app? They all work fine for what I expect them to do.
yett 2y ago
Why not buy a custom domain? You could then easily switch between providers.
- tr3ntg 2y ago
  Adding this to "simple solutions I've never considered but wow, I should" Seriously, I've had this same thought after switching to HEY getting pretty frustrated with it. Considered other options, but worried that I'd just repeat the process. However, if I use a custom domain next time around, this whole problem goes away. Yay
  - packetlost 2y ago
    People actually paid for HEY? I tried out the closed beta for a bit and once they started asking for $100/year I very quickly decided it wasn't worth that.
  - piva00 2y ago
    I switched to using my own domain for important emails some 10 years ago, after a friend got his Google Account taken over while on a month long hike without internet. When he got back his account had been banned because they used it for click fraud, no way to contact Google to get it reinstated, he lost access to his GMail, with it all email history since 2004, logins to accounts tied to it, etc. I don't want ever to go through this nightmare.
  - doubled112 2y ago
    It doesn't help you with existing emails, but you don't have to worry about receiving new ones.
  - pmarreck 2y ago
    I'm trying to make HEY work as well. Can we start a side discussion about it? I was initially impressed but now it feels like I have a part time job manually flagging things that should have been seen as spam right away
- FredPret 2y ago
  I was thinking parent commenter might be stuck with a widely-dispersed Protonmail address. Your solution is the one to go for though.
inhumantsar 2y ago
> iPhone app is so unreliable that's interesting. iirc the iPhone app got most of their attention early on, so I figured it would have been solid experience. the early android app was so awful that they rewrote it. the rewrite is much better but it still has its issues. one of the most painful issues I encountered: I'd reply to an email, hit send. then when my reply showed up in the thread, it would be incomplete. at first I thought it was truncating but it turned out to be the last draft that it auto saved before I hit send. I very nearly cancelled my subscription over that one. the web and desktop (which is an electron/tauri/whatever app) does work great. a bit off topic for this thread but sieve filtering is amazing. it makes email automation a breeze. I have it set up so that when an email comes in from a contact, it applies the label that contact has to the email. then any email with certain labels gets (or doesn't) an expiration date. eg: webstore notifications, eg for shipments, are deleted in 30d while notifications about upcoming sales or product announcements are deleted in 3d. likewise GitHub notifications for my repos get 7d expirations and go to my inbox while all others get 3d expirations and never hit the inbox.
- warkdarrior 2y ago
  Isn't Sieve filtering done server-side? How does it work with E2EE?
  - inhumantsar 2y ago
    it's only able to operate on header information, which isn't encrypted while in transit
buzzy_hacker 2y ago
I’ve used the iPhone app daily for almost 10 years at this point and it is reliable for me. What problems do you have?

lucasyvas 2y ago

Which app? They all work fine for what I expect them to do.

yett 2y ago

Why not buy a custom domain? You could then easily switch between providers.

tr3ntg 2y ago
Adding this to "simple solutions I've never considered but wow, I should" Seriously, I've had this same thought after switching to HEY getting pretty frustrated with it. Considered other options, but worried that I'd just repeat the process. However, if I use a custom domain next time around, this whole problem goes away. Yay
- packetlost 2y ago
  People actually paid for HEY? I tried out the closed beta for a bit and once they started asking for $100/year I very quickly decided it wasn't worth that.
- piva00 2y ago
  I switched to using my own domain for important emails some 10 years ago, after a friend got his Google Account taken over while on a month long hike without internet. When he got back his account had been banned because they used it for click fraud, no way to contact Google to get it reinstated, he lost access to his GMail, with it all email history since 2004, logins to accounts tied to it, etc. I don't want ever to go through this nightmare.
- doubled112 2y ago
  It doesn't help you with existing emails, but you don't have to worry about receiving new ones.
- pmarreck 2y ago
  I'm trying to make HEY work as well. Can we start a side discussion about it? I was initially impressed but now it feels like I have a part time job manually flagging things that should have been seen as spam right away
FredPret 2y ago
I was thinking parent commenter might be stuck with a widely-dispersed Protonmail address. Your solution is the one to go for though.

inhumantsar 2y ago

> iPhone app is so unreliable that's interesting. iirc the iPhone app got most of their attention early on, so I figured it would have been solid experience. the early android app was so awful that they rewrote it. the rewrite is much better but it still has its issues. one of the most painful issues I encountered: I'd reply to an email, hit send. then when my reply showed up in the thread, it would be incomplete. at first I thought it was truncating but it turned out to be the last draft that it auto saved before I hit send. I very nearly cancelled my subscription over that one. the web and desktop (which is an electron/tauri/whatever app) does work great. a bit off topic for this thread but sieve filtering is amazing. it makes email automation a breeze. I have it set up so that when an email comes in from a contact, it applies the label that contact has to the email. then any email with certain labels gets (or doesn't) an expiration date. eg: webstore notifications, eg for shipments, are deleted in 30d while notifications about upcoming sales or product announcements are deleted in 3d. likewise GitHub notifications for my repos get 7d expirations and go to my inbox while all others get 3d expirations and never hit the inbox.

warkdarrior 2y ago
Isn't Sieve filtering done server-side? How does it work with E2EE?
- inhumantsar 2y ago
  it's only able to operate on header information, which isn't encrypted while in transit

buzzy_hacker 2y ago

I’ve used the iPhone app daily for almost 10 years at this point and it is reliable for me. What problems do you have?