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They are falling into the hole of adding products on top of products, while their core apps are decaying. Please. Fix. The. Android app! It's unusable. I feel

by meibo 2y ago

They are falling into the hole of adding products on top of products, while their core apps are decaying. Please. Fix. The. Android app! It's unusable. I feel like I beg for them to do this in every yearly survey, and then they change the design a little bit, it loses a few features and gets some new ones, while missing basic stuff like unmarking an email as spam. This wouldn't be a problem if it was possible to use K9 or AquaMail with Proton, but that's obviously not an option.

shinryuu 2y ago
Are you running the latest version? They archived their old version of the android app 14th of May this year. https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-mail-android https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-mail-android
FredPret 2y ago
I first thought you might be able to get Proton Bridge installed on Android and then link that to the mail app you like, but turns out that's desktop-only. There is a ridiculous workaround involving a home server with Bridge and Wireguard on it: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/15nj8f7/comment/jvmj34i/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/15nj8f7/comment...
sofixa 2y ago
> They are falling into the hole of adding products on top of products, while their core apps are decaying. It's not a hole, it's only natural. It's easier to add new products than it is to improve existing ones (tech debt), and new products can bring in new customers, make existing customers happier, etc. which is easier to see and justify. That being said, the Android app has some weird gaps (like can't snooze an email) that probably won't take long to fix.
- meibo 2y ago
  > that probably won't take long to fix. That's what I told myself about the spam thing I mentioned when they released the redesign, and it's still not possible, at least on the version I'm using at the moment. I'm sure there's a lot of background here and corporate dynamics we're not aware of, it just doesn't feel great as a paying customer. The apps have never really been fully adequate.
- sundarurfriend 2y ago
  > new products can bring in new customers, make existing customers happier Doesn't seem to be much of the latter in this thread (but then again, this is HN...)
  - sofixa 2y ago
    > Doesn't seem to be much of the latter in this thread (but then again, this is HN...) Insert famous "Dropbox is just FTP, who would pay for it" comment here :)
Night_Thastus 2y ago
Are you using the current version of the app? It's been working great for me. They switched over from an older version somewhere on the order of a few months ago.

by meibo 2y ago

shinryuu 2y ago

Are you running the latest version? They archived their old version of the android app 14th of May this year. https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-mail-android https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-mail-android

FredPret 2y ago

I first thought you might be able to get Proton Bridge installed on Android and then link that to the mail app you like, but turns out that's desktop-only. There is a ridiculous workaround involving a home server with Bridge and Wireguard on it: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/15nj8f7/comment/jvmj34i/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/15nj8f7/comment...

sofixa 2y ago

> They are falling into the hole of adding products on top of products, while their core apps are decaying. It's not a hole, it's only natural. It's easier to add new products than it is to improve existing ones (tech debt), and new products can bring in new customers, make existing customers happier, etc. which is easier to see and justify. That being said, the Android app has some weird gaps (like can't snooze an email) that probably won't take long to fix.

meibo 2y ago
> that probably won't take long to fix. That's what I told myself about the spam thing I mentioned when they released the redesign, and it's still not possible, at least on the version I'm using at the moment. I'm sure there's a lot of background here and corporate dynamics we're not aware of, it just doesn't feel great as a paying customer. The apps have never really been fully adequate.
sundarurfriend 2y ago
> new products can bring in new customers, make existing customers happier Doesn't seem to be much of the latter in this thread (but then again, this is HN...)
- sofixa 2y ago
  > Doesn't seem to be much of the latter in this thread (but then again, this is HN...) Insert famous "Dropbox is just FTP, who would pay for it" comment here :)

Night_Thastus 2y ago

Are you using the current version of the app? It's been working great for me. They switched over from an older version somewhere on the order of a few months ago.