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> You cannot expect praise for needlessly destroying somewhere and then rebuilding it. The word "needlessly" is being contested. If the Minsk accord were adher

by cies 2y ago

> You cannot expect praise for needlessly destroying somewhere and then rebuilding it. The word "needlessly" is being contested. If the Minsk accord were adhered to it was not needed. Apparently some felt this was needed. Also: what did US/Ukraine do to rebuild Iraq? As that was my point... The wars are very different and IMHO Russia behaves much better in all phases (the lead up, and the war itself) than the US did in all it's invasions (and Ukraine did in it's invasion of Iraq).

distances 2y ago
> The wars are very different and IMHO Russia behaves much better in all phases (the lead up, and the war itself) than the US did in all it's invasions This, like most of your claims, is full-on delusional, or just brazen propaganda. I probably shouldn't bother even answering. Russian attack is best compared to USSR and German attacks in WW2, not any modern scenario. Both in the authoritarian and imperialistic setup, and in the execution that has no qualms with generating war crimes of all kinds.
- cies 2y ago
  If we are going to compare to WW2, I think Ukriane's love for Bandera is the best thing to keep in mind. I'll show some wikipedia things here... See here the photo of the Euromaidan head quarters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidan#Legal_hearings_and_investigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidan#Legal_hearings_and_... That's Bandera's face! He was leader of the OUN that helped Hitler to ethnically cleanse. 70k jews killed in a short time at teh hands of the OUN. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_of_Ukrainian_Nationalists#Treatment_of_non-Ukrainians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_of_Ukrainian_Nati... So why again should I be happy with any organization that puts up OUN pictures/statures in praise? And how is this propaganda? I've talked to numerous Ukrainians about this and many see Bandera as a hero. Sorry. I think he's a fascist and anyone praising him is a fascist too.

by cies 2y ago

distances 2y ago

> The wars are very different and IMHO Russia behaves much better in all phases (the lead up, and the war itself) than the US did in all it's invasions This, like most of your claims, is full-on delusional, or just brazen propaganda. I probably shouldn't bother even answering. Russian attack is best compared to USSR and German attacks in WW2, not any modern scenario. Both in the authoritarian and imperialistic setup, and in the execution that has no qualms with generating war crimes of all kinds.

cies 2y ago
If we are going to compare to WW2, I think Ukriane's love for Bandera is the best thing to keep in mind. I'll show some wikipedia things here... See here the photo of the Euromaidan head quarters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidan#Legal_hearings_and_investigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidan#Legal_hearings_and_... That's Bandera's face! He was leader of the OUN that helped Hitler to ethnically cleanse. 70k jews killed in a short time at teh hands of the OUN. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_of_Ukrainian_Nationalists#Treatment_of_non-Ukrainians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_of_Ukrainian_Nati... So why again should I be happy with any organization that puts up OUN pictures/statures in praise? And how is this propaganda? I've talked to numerous Ukrainians about this and many see Bandera as a hero. Sorry. I think he's a fascist and anyone praising him is a fascist too.