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There is no need to do more than park the might of the NATO military along the borders and watch the Russian army die in Ukraine. The war in Ukraine is waged in

There is no need to do more than park the might of the NATO military along the borders and watch the Russian army die in Ukraine. The war in Ukraine is waged in Excel and it is an equation with the expected outcome of destroying their military, equipment and personnel. Dead men won't have children, so the more of them die there the weaker Russia will be in the decades to come.

ramesh31 2y ago
> Dead men won't have children, so the more of them die there the weaker Russia will be in the decades to come. Sadly it seems this is Putin's goal as well. What we are seeing is looking more and more like a mass genocide of Russia's undesirables by means of Forever War, with any further territorial gains as a nice bonus. And with all forms of dissent ground into the dust, and a global market more than happy to keep buying his oil, he can continue at this pace indefinitely.
- surfingdino 2y ago
  Not indefinitely. He lost skilled workers, his infrastructure is falling apart and the Western companies that used to maintain it are not coming back. He will be soon leasing Siberia to China.
  - ramesh31 2y ago
    >Not indefinitely. He lost skilled workers, his infrastructure is falling apart and the Western companies that used to maintain it are not coming back. Indefinitely meaning at least his lifetime of the next 10-15 years. It doesn't take much skill to manufacture rifles and artillery shells. Probably there will be some uneasy truce reached in that time. But in the end this war will most likely look a lot like Iran-Iraq: ~1 million total military dead over ten years with no meaningful gains on either side.
- ClumsyPilot 2y ago
  > mass genocide of Russia's undesirables by means of Forever War The war indeed has no clear endpoint, and claiming that ‘Russia is hurt, that is good’ is not a replacement for having a plan. One must consider casualties on the Ukrainian side, and they should not be in vain. This is how you end up with a debacle like Afghanistan. Re. Genocide I think it’s unhelpful to muddy the water. Russia is a multi-ethnic and multi-religious state. It’s made up of ethnic and religious republics - for example Chechnya is Islamic. Some of these ethnic groups don’t like each other. Putin does not allow talk of ethnic cleansing or similar because it will open the door to internal conflict and would be the beginning of Russia falling apart. Look at the tone in the press for internal consumption, both in Russia and in the certain western supported Middle Eastern country. Use google translate, for example: https://www.vesti.ru/article/4029512 https://www.vesti.ru/article/4029512 And then compare it with the tone of this, written by a minister of national security: https://x.com/itamarbengvir/status/1808031178277925263 https://x.com/itamarbengvir/status/1808031178277925263

ramesh31 2y ago

> Dead men won't have children, so the more of them die there the weaker Russia will be in the decades to come. Sadly it seems this is Putin's goal as well. What we are seeing is looking more and more like a mass genocide of Russia's undesirables by means of Forever War, with any further territorial gains as a nice bonus. And with all forms of dissent ground into the dust, and a global market more than happy to keep buying his oil, he can continue at this pace indefinitely.

surfingdino 2y ago
Not indefinitely. He lost skilled workers, his infrastructure is falling apart and the Western companies that used to maintain it are not coming back. He will be soon leasing Siberia to China.
- ramesh31 2y ago
  >Not indefinitely. He lost skilled workers, his infrastructure is falling apart and the Western companies that used to maintain it are not coming back. Indefinitely meaning at least his lifetime of the next 10-15 years. It doesn't take much skill to manufacture rifles and artillery shells. Probably there will be some uneasy truce reached in that time. But in the end this war will most likely look a lot like Iran-Iraq: ~1 million total military dead over ten years with no meaningful gains on either side.
ClumsyPilot 2y ago
> mass genocide of Russia's undesirables by means of Forever War The war indeed has no clear endpoint, and claiming that ‘Russia is hurt, that is good’ is not a replacement for having a plan. One must consider casualties on the Ukrainian side, and they should not be in vain. This is how you end up with a debacle like Afghanistan. Re. Genocide I think it’s unhelpful to muddy the water. Russia is a multi-ethnic and multi-religious state. It’s made up of ethnic and religious republics - for example Chechnya is Islamic. Some of these ethnic groups don’t like each other. Putin does not allow talk of ethnic cleansing or similar because it will open the door to internal conflict and would be the beginning of Russia falling apart. Look at the tone in the press for internal consumption, both in Russia and in the certain western supported Middle Eastern country. Use google translate, for example: https://www.vesti.ru/article/4029512 https://www.vesti.ru/article/4029512 And then compare it with the tone of this, written by a minister of national security: https://x.com/itamarbengvir/status/1808031178277925263 https://x.com/itamarbengvir/status/1808031178277925263