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Mac also has its issues just you are so used to it that you don't realize it anymore. Like for me the Mac will sometimes randomly turn on from sleep like in th

Mac also has its issues just you are so used to it that you don't realize it anymore. Like for me the Mac will sometimes randomly turn on from sleep like in the middle of the night. For updates or things like that. When you have wireless mouse but probably any kind of mouse, just a slight move of it will wake the laptop from sleep. When you have the fingerprint sensor equiped power button, the thing constantly mix up going to sleep because you push it but also waking up immediately because it sensed your finger print on top of the button. ...

phantompeace 2y ago
Umm, why not disable automatic updates if you don’t want the machine to wake up to update whilst you’re not using it? TouchID issue is valid though.
noahtallen 2y ago
Wireless mouse issue isn’t Mac-specific. Bluetooth wake-from-sleep is a thing on both Linux and windows depending on the device. Fingerprint issue has been super annoying though. Only happens when waking, where it wakes and then turns it off immediately again. My macs have thankfully never once randomly turned on or done an unexpected update; you normally tell it “update later tonight.”
- greatgib 2y ago
  Personally I don't have the issue of wake up when moving the mouse with my Linux laptops (mint and Ubuntu based)
bzzzt 2y ago
> the Mac will sometimes randomly turn on from sleep like in the middle of the night. For updates or things like that. If it's for updates it's not random. Modern M series macs also don't really sleep anymore, they just enter a very low power state.
- Nab443 2y ago
  To be fair it's still random from the user perspective.
type0 2y ago
> Like for me the Mac will sometimes randomly turn on from sleep like in the middle of the night. For updates or things like that. that's because you don't own your operating system, it's Apples software and they'll do whatever they please with your harware
- nvartolomei 2y ago
  Power Nap is another feature rather than a bug https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mh40773/mac https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mh40773/mac
- saturn8601 2y ago
  And with Linux you don't own your time. Pick your poison.
saturn8601 2y ago
After a decade of using Linux (to the point of compiling my own kernel since I am a CS guy) and using Windows since I was 6, I would gladly take the Mac any day of the week. >Like for me the Mac will sometimes randomly turn on from sleep like in the middle of the night. For updates or things like that. I'm sorry this happened to you. I only ever saw this on Windows. In fact (I probably shouldn't say this) but it lets me defer updates far longer than on Windows. I think the longest I have gone is a year+? They are the least intrusive updates ever. >When you have wireless mouse but probably any kind of mouse, just a slight move of it will wake the laptop from sleep. This does not happen on Windows or Linux? I have definitely seen it on Windows. >When you have the fingerprint sensor equiped power button, the thing constantly mix up going to sleep because you push it but also waking up immediately because it sensed your finger print on top of the button. ... I think this is more on you as that feature is a blast to use for login purposes. On newer macs, the machine starts when you open the lid so maybe its been resolved on newer macs?

phantompeace 2y ago

Umm, why not disable automatic updates if you don’t want the machine to wake up to update whilst you’re not using it? TouchID issue is valid though.

noahtallen 2y ago

Wireless mouse issue isn’t Mac-specific. Bluetooth wake-from-sleep is a thing on both Linux and windows depending on the device. Fingerprint issue has been super annoying though. Only happens when waking, where it wakes and then turns it off immediately again. My macs have thankfully never once randomly turned on or done an unexpected update; you normally tell it “update later tonight.”

greatgib 2y ago
Personally I don't have the issue of wake up when moving the mouse with my Linux laptops (mint and Ubuntu based)

bzzzt 2y ago

> the Mac will sometimes randomly turn on from sleep like in the middle of the night. For updates or things like that. If it's for updates it's not random. Modern M series macs also don't really sleep anymore, they just enter a very low power state.

Nab443 2y ago
To be fair it's still random from the user perspective.

type0 2y ago

> Like for me the Mac will sometimes randomly turn on from sleep like in the middle of the night. For updates or things like that. that's because you don't own your operating system, it's Apples software and they'll do whatever they please with your harware

nvartolomei 2y ago
Power Nap is another feature rather than a bug https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mh40773/mac https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mh40773/mac
saturn8601 2y ago
And with Linux you don't own your time. Pick your poison.

saturn8601 2y ago

After a decade of using Linux (to the point of compiling my own kernel since I am a CS guy) and using Windows since I was 6, I would gladly take the Mac any day of the week. >Like for me the Mac will sometimes randomly turn on from sleep like in the middle of the night. For updates or things like that. I'm sorry this happened to you. I only ever saw this on Windows. In fact (I probably shouldn't say this) but it lets me defer updates far longer than on Windows. I think the longest I have gone is a year+? They are the least intrusive updates ever. >When you have wireless mouse but probably any kind of mouse, just a slight move of it will wake the laptop from sleep. This does not happen on Windows or Linux? I have definitely seen it on Windows. >When you have the fingerprint sensor equiped power button, the thing constantly mix up going to sleep because you push it but also waking up immediately because it sensed your finger print on top of the button. ... I think this is more on you as that feature is a blast to use for login purposes. On newer macs, the machine starts when you open the lid so maybe its been resolved on newer macs?