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Anti AI art people remind me of anti AI marketing people from hackernews. Guys, it’s a tool like any other.

by dvrp 2y ago

portaouflop 2y ago
IMO the issue was calling it “AI” - it just riles people up. It’s machine learning all the way down there is no intelligence involved
- kvdveer 2y ago
  That's a bit of a misdirection. Yes AI is machine learning all the way down, just like you are biology all the way down. That doesn't make you not-human. As TFA shows, this machine learning is almost indistinguishable from actual intelligence. It might not be sci-fi AI, but it certainly is artificial, and is is indistinguishable from intelligence. AI is a very apt description of what it is.
feoren 2y ago
Auto-dialers are just a tool too, and there's a reason they're largely illegal.
card_zero 2y ago
Like a duck decoy, or that little portable printing press Jim Rockford had for creating fake business cards in a hurry.
12_throw_away 2y ago
> Anti AI art people remind me of anti AI marketing people from hackernews. ... what an incredibly odd thing to say. But really, I've noticed that thought-ending cliches like this one are popping up as defensive reactions around LLMs more and more. This particular thought-ender displays the most common theme - it dismisses all skepticism as being driven by some amorphous "anti-AI" demographic, presumably allowing the author to dismiss any concerns and thereby preventing any critical thought from occurring. Kind of feels like "nocoiner" and "have fun being poor", v2 ...
bmacho 2y ago
I think you messed up your "A reminds me of B" structure, or at least I don't get what you are saying, and why. Anyways. LLM is a program created by supercomputers to be deceptive. Also it took away the aspect of life that people around the world could cold email each other if their hobbies align. And in general, now the percentage of potential bad actors went from near 0 to near 100. And for why? .. ..
- bmacho 2y ago
  .. I still think the world should just put a cap on chip power. Stop producing new chips, and make it illegal to own powerful chips. I think it is a) doable b) the right solution. (And eventually start producing very weak chips, that can run your business and accounting on a TUI.)
lambdaone 2y ago
It is, indeed, just a tool like any other. And just like any other tool, like a gun or a knife or a pepper spray, having one does not give you the right to use it on other people. Your right to swing your fist stops at my nose.

Anti AI art people remind me of anti AI marketing people from hackernews. Guys, it’s a tool like any other.

by dvrp 2y ago

Anti AI art people remind me of anti AI marketing people from hackernews. Guys, it’s a tool like any other.

IMO the issue was calling it “AI” - it just riles people up. It’s machine learning all the way down there is no intelligence involved

kvdveer 2y ago
That's a bit of a misdirection. Yes AI is machine learning all the way down, just like you are biology all the way down. That doesn't make you not-human. As TFA shows, this machine learning is almost indistinguishable from actual intelligence. It might not be sci-fi AI, but it certainly is artificial, and is is indistinguishable from intelligence. AI is a very apt description of what it is.

feoren 2y ago

Auto-dialers are just a tool too, and there's a reason they're largely illegal.

card_zero 2y ago

Like a duck decoy, or that little portable printing press Jim Rockford had for creating fake business cards in a hurry.

12_throw_away 2y ago

> Anti AI art people remind me of anti AI marketing people from hackernews. ... what an incredibly odd thing to say. But really, I've noticed that thought-ending cliches like this one are popping up as defensive reactions around LLMs more and more. This particular thought-ender displays the most common theme - it dismisses all skepticism as being driven by some amorphous "anti-AI" demographic, presumably allowing the author to dismiss any concerns and thereby preventing any critical thought from occurring. Kind of feels like "nocoiner" and "have fun being poor", v2 ...

bmacho 2y ago

I think you messed up your "A reminds me of B" structure, or at least I don't get what you are saying, and why. Anyways. LLM is a program created by supercomputers to be deceptive. Also it took away the aspect of life that people around the world could cold email each other if their hobbies align. And in general, now the percentage of potential bad actors went from near 0 to near 100. And for why? .. ..

bmacho 2y ago
.. I still think the world should just put a cap on chip power. Stop producing new chips, and make it illegal to own powerful chips. I think it is a) doable b) the right solution. (And eventually start producing very weak chips, that can run your business and accounting on a TUI.)

lambdaone 2y ago

It is, indeed, just a tool like any other. And just like any other tool, like a gun or a knife or a pepper spray, having one does not give you the right to use it on other people. Your right to swing your fist stops at my nose.