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What is the "dead internet theory"?

by cranberryturkey 2y ago

cranberryturkey 2y ago
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- greesil 2y ago
  They truly walk among us
- names_are_hard 2y ago
  As a flesh and blood human I take some comfort in the fact that the comment I'm replying to is still identifiable (with high probability) as written by a non-human. I wonder how long it'll take until that's no longer the case. It may already not be the case. I'll probably never know.
  - sph 2y ago
    What can't popular LLMs do? Be vulgar and snarky. The future of human communication is to be cunts online, so that we can identify ourselves. That will at least separate us from the script kiddies. Major marketers will train their AIs without any filter, so we're fucked anyway.
- ducklord 2y ago
  Wait, is this written by an AI?
  - akie 2y ago
    100%
  - lexandstuff 2y ago
    Yes. The dead giveaway is multiple paragraphs of bullshit where one sentence would suffice. People ain't got time for that.
    - jeffhuys 2y ago
      That is the giveaway for some of the high-profile LLMs. The ones I run locally with ollama can be VERY close to perfectly human, subtle typos and all
      - cranberryturkey 2y ago
        What’s your local setup? I run llama3:8b and it works well
- zoky 2y ago
  Please could you reduce that in size by 80% to generate a quick summary?
  - DonHopkins 2y ago
    And keep iterating until you pick a single letter of the alphabet or emoji that encapsulates the essence of what you are trying to communicate.
- iJohnDoe 2y ago
  Not bots. Simply outsourced to India, Malaysia and China. These countries were extremely happy to get this type of work. Now this work will be outsourced to AI with even greater efficiency. I think the real dead internet today and is a bit deceiving (not sure a better word) are examples of online games where you’re playing against bots or everyone assumes they are playing against bots. One of the aspects of the early days of the internet that was really cool and is now arguably not real anymore.
kibwen 2y ago
It was a joke from the 2010s that most of the people that you interacted with on the internet were actually bots, and that you were the only human using the web. Now, in the post-LLM age, it doesn't sound like a joke anymore.
- devjab 2y ago
  Does it really matter if you’re being cold called by an AI or some sales person following the same few procedures they always do? I’d prefer sales people keep their jobs. Having had the misfortune of being seated next to the telemarketing team in an investment bank for half a year… however… Let’s just say that I’m not sure you would even know if it was a person or a bot. They’re not even scripted or “trained” like your average telemarketer because our target audience is actually somewhat interested in what we sell, but listening to them repeat themselves over and over from their own “personal scripts”… well… they are already bots man.
  - cranberryturkey 2y ago
    Very true, I sat next to the sales guy at a small company and he was on the phone all day repeating himself day in and day out. Easily replaced by AI.

What is the "dead internet theory"?

cranberryturkey 2y ago

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greesil 2y ago
They truly walk among us
names_are_hard 2y ago
As a flesh and blood human I take some comfort in the fact that the comment I'm replying to is still identifiable (with high probability) as written by a non-human. I wonder how long it'll take until that's no longer the case. It may already not be the case. I'll probably never know.
- sph 2y ago
  What can't popular LLMs do? Be vulgar and snarky. The future of human communication is to be cunts online, so that we can identify ourselves. That will at least separate us from the script kiddies. Major marketers will train their AIs without any filter, so we're fucked anyway.
ducklord 2y ago
Wait, is this written by an AI?
- akie 2y ago
  100%
- lexandstuff 2y ago
  Yes. The dead giveaway is multiple paragraphs of bullshit where one sentence would suffice. People ain't got time for that.
  - jeffhuys 2y ago
    That is the giveaway for some of the high-profile LLMs. The ones I run locally with ollama can be VERY close to perfectly human, subtle typos and all
    - cranberryturkey 2y ago
      What’s your local setup? I run llama3:8b and it works well
zoky 2y ago
Please could you reduce that in size by 80% to generate a quick summary?
- DonHopkins 2y ago
  And keep iterating until you pick a single letter of the alphabet or emoji that encapsulates the essence of what you are trying to communicate.
iJohnDoe 2y ago
Not bots. Simply outsourced to India, Malaysia and China. These countries were extremely happy to get this type of work. Now this work will be outsourced to AI with even greater efficiency. I think the real dead internet today and is a bit deceiving (not sure a better word) are examples of online games where you’re playing against bots or everyone assumes they are playing against bots. One of the aspects of the early days of the internet that was really cool and is now arguably not real anymore.

kibwen 2y ago

It was a joke from the 2010s that most of the people that you interacted with on the internet were actually bots, and that you were the only human using the web. Now, in the post-LLM age, it doesn't sound like a joke anymore.

devjab 2y ago
Does it really matter if you’re being cold called by an AI or some sales person following the same few procedures they always do? I’d prefer sales people keep their jobs. Having had the misfortune of being seated next to the telemarketing team in an investment bank for half a year… however… Let’s just say that I’m not sure you would even know if it was a person or a bot. They’re not even scripted or “trained” like your average telemarketer because our target audience is actually somewhat interested in what we sell, but listening to them repeat themselves over and over from their own “personal scripts”… well… they are already bots man.
- cranberryturkey 2y ago
  Very true, I sat next to the sales guy at a small company and he was on the phone all day repeating himself day in and day out. Easily replaced by AI.