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As a manager who has hired hundreds of developers I always ask for a portfolio, with links to live sites. Right-click, view source! Can reveal a lot about a d

As a manager who has hired hundreds of developers I always ask for a portfolio, with links to live sites. Right-click, view source! Can reveal a lot about a developers habits and practices. I also expect a GitHub repo. Fyi, personal sites and projects are just as important as the ones you get paid to build. IMHO LinkedIn is a waste of time. People struggle to keep it up to date and most don't have the time to put enough detail into their profile that it says very little about the candidate.

threatofrain 2y ago
You have to ask them to richly narrate their portfolio or you won't know if it's fake. You could be judging someone else's code quality. It's not wrong to do so but it's a different kind of interview.
- JasonSage 2y ago
  In my experience you can quickly tell if the quality of somebody’s resume material lines up with the person across the table. I suppose at more attractive workplaces there are folks spending serious effort to game the system, but I haven’t seen it. If anything I am most accustomed to seeing a light GitHub profile and an out-of-date personal site, and the candidate clearly has the skills to do way better today, they’re just not touching open source or spending time on their site.
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zdragnar 2y ago
> Fyi, personal sites and projects are just as important as the ones you get paid to build. You're missing out on great developers who have children and family lives that don't lend themselves to having the time for building a portfolio that nobody is going to look at except once every few years. Not to mention that if a portfolio is going to be a selling point to a hiring manager, you need to rewrite it every time you change jobs to stay up to date with the latest trends lest you be pegged as someone who is out of touch. Vanity projects are fine as vanity projects, but a hiring decision based on one is a red flag about the person doing the hiring and I'm happy to be passed over for it.
8n4vidtmkvmk 2y ago
What do you expect to see in the source? You're either going to see minfied code, or like 5 lines of HTML and then a js import. GitHub repo and personal portfolio are unreasonable expectations. I have both but keep neither up to date because 99% of my work is commercial/private.
rfrey 2y ago
I trust that when you were hired as a manager you were required to provide a sample of the recreational gantt charts you have done for historical engineering projects.
tamimio 2y ago
> IMHO LinkedIn is a waste of time. I couldn't agree more! I don't know why this site is still relevant these days. It should be a sign of an entry-level or mediocre employee/job by now. I haven't updated mine in about four years or so.

threatofrain 2y ago

You have to ask them to richly narrate their portfolio or you won't know if it's fake. You could be judging someone else's code quality. It's not wrong to do so but it's a different kind of interview.

JasonSage 2y ago
In my experience you can quickly tell if the quality of somebody’s resume material lines up with the person across the table. I suppose at more attractive workplaces there are folks spending serious effort to game the system, but I haven’t seen it. If anything I am most accustomed to seeing a light GitHub profile and an out-of-date personal site, and the candidate clearly has the skills to do way better today, they’re just not touching open source or spending time on their site.
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zdragnar 2y ago

> Fyi, personal sites and projects are just as important as the ones you get paid to build. You're missing out on great developers who have children and family lives that don't lend themselves to having the time for building a portfolio that nobody is going to look at except once every few years. Not to mention that if a portfolio is going to be a selling point to a hiring manager, you need to rewrite it every time you change jobs to stay up to date with the latest trends lest you be pegged as someone who is out of touch. Vanity projects are fine as vanity projects, but a hiring decision based on one is a red flag about the person doing the hiring and I'm happy to be passed over for it.

8n4vidtmkvmk 2y ago

What do you expect to see in the source? You're either going to see minfied code, or like 5 lines of HTML and then a js import. GitHub repo and personal portfolio are unreasonable expectations. I have both but keep neither up to date because 99% of my work is commercial/private.

rfrey 2y ago

I trust that when you were hired as a manager you were required to provide a sample of the recreational gantt charts you have done for historical engineering projects.

tamimio 2y ago

> IMHO LinkedIn is a waste of time. I couldn't agree more! I don't know why this site is still relevant these days. It should be a sign of an entry-level or mediocre employee/job by now. I haven't updated mine in about four years or so.