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I don't know - I recently interviewed with xAI and it sounds like they have some really interesting things in the works that extend into the physical world. I w

I don't know - I recently interviewed with xAI and it sounds like they have some really interesting things in the works that extend into the physical world. I wouldn't write them off, personally.

phillipcarter 2y ago
Guess I'll believe it when I see it. I have seen at least one person on twitter who works for them engage with the community, but by and large xAI appears to just be there so that Musk doesn't feel so bad about OpenAI ignoring him.
ben_w 2y ago
Unfortunately Musk is an excellent salesman, which makes it hard to tell if any given thing that he makes sound good, is actually good. His successes earn more than his failures cost, but even he knows he's over-optimistic.
- voidfunc 2y ago
  If you're in the business of making money (you should be if you arent) it doesn't matter if his shit is good or not, only that it sells. Way too many idealists out there. Make money and get out of the rat race.
  - rurp 2y ago
    That might be an argument for acting like Musk, but it sure as heck isn't a reason to invest in or buy from his companies.
    - voidfunc 2y ago
      > but it sure as heck isn't a reason to invest in Are we just ignoring the bushels of money that Tesla has made investors?
      - ben_w 2y ago
        We see that share price, we also see lenders writing off what they loaned him for Twitter.
        voidfunc 2y ago
        He did make the public Twitter investors massively wealthy tho :)
cafed00d 2y ago
I 100% agree. I'm no Musk stan; in fact, it irks me this dude has so much money & power that he wields for personal benefit (i.e. buys twitter and shuts down @elonjet) and yet acts like he's relatable to the middle class. But if there's anything he's proven it's that he can ship product. Tesla cars are phenomenal. xAI looks exactly like what Tesla looked like in 2010. Far too futuristic & optimistic timelines that peers & laypersons would characterize as fluffy grandiose snake-oil. But I bet they will ship. And it won't be fluffy nor snake-oil.
- jgalt212 2y ago
  > But if there's anything he's proven it's that he can ship product. - robotaxis - Boring tunnels
  - richardw 2y ago
    "can" -> he has shipped at least one product. Different to "guaranteed to ship every product to 100% success". Let's try "Musk has proved he can ship more than one entirely unrelated product to the scale that it influences an entire industry", which is different to many people who have shipped a single product. It shows that he's either ridiculously lucky, and/or has significant skill in this area. He's very annoying, but the man can ship.
  - HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
    Worse: pay-walling and login-walling Twitter are un-delivery.
  - rurp 2y ago
    Self driving cars that can travel across the country on their own should be here by 2017 at the latest.
- swat535 2y ago
  Musk is different because he's just himself and doesn't really care. He posts memes, he has own political opinions (and often makes them known), whether one disagrees or agrees is irrelevant to him, he trolls sometimes, or makes bad mistakes or hasty decisions. I like him because I feel like he's genuine and he's creative and can ship product as you said. I can relate to his craziness on some level..
gopher_space 2y ago
Is xai his edgy teen simulator or is this something newer?
- kortilla 2y ago
  You’re thinking of grok

I don't know - I recently interviewed with xAI and it sounds like they have some really interesting things in the works that extend into the physical world. I wouldn't write them off, personally.

phillipcarter 2y ago

Guess I'll believe it when I see it. I have seen at least one person on twitter who works for them engage with the community, but by and large xAI appears to just be there so that Musk doesn't feel so bad about OpenAI ignoring him.

ben_w 2y ago

Unfortunately Musk is an excellent salesman, which makes it hard to tell if any given thing that he makes sound good, is actually good. His successes earn more than his failures cost, but even he knows he's over-optimistic.

voidfunc 2y ago
If you're in the business of making money (you should be if you arent) it doesn't matter if his shit is good or not, only that it sells. Way too many idealists out there. Make money and get out of the rat race.
- rurp 2y ago
  That might be an argument for acting like Musk, but it sure as heck isn't a reason to invest in or buy from his companies.
  - voidfunc 2y ago
    > but it sure as heck isn't a reason to invest in Are we just ignoring the bushels of money that Tesla has made investors?
    - ben_w 2y ago
      We see that share price, we also see lenders writing off what they loaned him for Twitter.
      - voidfunc 2y ago
        He did make the public Twitter investors massively wealthy tho :)

cafed00d 2y ago

I 100% agree. I'm no Musk stan; in fact, it irks me this dude has so much money & power that he wields for personal benefit (i.e. buys twitter and shuts down @elonjet) and yet acts like he's relatable to the middle class. But if there's anything he's proven it's that he can ship product. Tesla cars are phenomenal. xAI looks exactly like what Tesla looked like in 2010. Far too futuristic & optimistic timelines that peers & laypersons would characterize as fluffy grandiose snake-oil. But I bet they will ship. And it won't be fluffy nor snake-oil.

jgalt212 2y ago
> But if there's anything he's proven it's that he can ship product. - robotaxis - Boring tunnels
- richardw 2y ago
  "can" -> he has shipped at least one product. Different to "guaranteed to ship every product to 100% success". Let's try "Musk has proved he can ship more than one entirely unrelated product to the scale that it influences an entire industry", which is different to many people who have shipped a single product. It shows that he's either ridiculously lucky, and/or has significant skill in this area. He's very annoying, but the man can ship.
- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
  Worse: pay-walling and login-walling Twitter are un-delivery.
- rurp 2y ago
  Self driving cars that can travel across the country on their own should be here by 2017 at the latest.
swat535 2y ago
Musk is different because he's just himself and doesn't really care. He posts memes, he has own political opinions (and often makes them known), whether one disagrees or agrees is irrelevant to him, he trolls sometimes, or makes bad mistakes or hasty decisions. I like him because I feel like he's genuine and he's creative and can ship product as you said. I can relate to his craziness on some level..

gopher_space 2y ago

Is xai his edgy teen simulator or is this something newer?

kortilla 2y ago
You’re thinking of grok