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Refrigators now have "software" so you can order Uber and doordash, everything used to build it is cheaper and overal less reliable and the whole structure isn'

by chad1n 2y ago

Refrigators now have "software" so you can order Uber and doordash, everything used to build it is cheaper and overal less reliable and the whole structure isn't meant to last. After all, how will manufacturers make money if your refrigerator works for 10-15 years? The whole industry is built around constant (3-5 years) replacement of electronics.

pokstad 2y ago
I don’t think manufacturers are trying to achieve planned obsolescence. Rather I think they are trying to get in on that cheap internet services money they are being left out of. There’s lots of money being left on the table from having a foothold in a consumer’s home.
- taylodl 2y ago
  Ironically, appliance shopping sites and reviews make the problem worse. Many people look at two things: the features list, and the price. They assume the quality is going to be six one way, half a dozen the other. So, your appliance has half the number of features yet only costs $200 less? It's going to get looked over. The internet makes it super easy to look it over.
fatnoah 2y ago
> Refrigators now have "software" so you can order Uber and doordash... I don't plan to buy any new refrigerator until it has full AI capabilities to generate recipes (including visuals) and guidance based on an inspection of the ingredients it contains.
- dsr_ 2y ago
  I don't want low-rent LLM capabilities. I want a robot chef which can learn my kitchen, pantry and tastes, determine the ripeness of an avocado, and cook omelets and steaks as well as a minimum-wage line cook can. Anybody can shove inventory management and a knapsack solver into a Raspberry Pi, I want real AI and robotics.
- Arrath 2y ago
  If we truly insist on shoving AI into my fridge, I just want it to learn my eating habits and monitor the stock levels, pushing an updated grocery list to my phone's notes app that I can pull up at any time and see "expected to run out of milk in 3 days (expires in 1)" or "2 sandwiches worth of salami left if you control your midnight snacking"
- asdff 2y ago
  Hope you can stomach the monthly fee that will demand

by chad1n 2y ago

pokstad 2y ago

I don’t think manufacturers are trying to achieve planned obsolescence. Rather I think they are trying to get in on that cheap internet services money they are being left out of. There’s lots of money being left on the table from having a foothold in a consumer’s home.

taylodl 2y ago
Ironically, appliance shopping sites and reviews make the problem worse. Many people look at two things: the features list, and the price. They assume the quality is going to be six one way, half a dozen the other. So, your appliance has half the number of features yet only costs $200 less? It's going to get looked over. The internet makes it super easy to look it over.

fatnoah 2y ago

> Refrigators now have "software" so you can order Uber and doordash... I don't plan to buy any new refrigerator until it has full AI capabilities to generate recipes (including visuals) and guidance based on an inspection of the ingredients it contains.

dsr_ 2y ago
I don't want low-rent LLM capabilities. I want a robot chef which can learn my kitchen, pantry and tastes, determine the ripeness of an avocado, and cook omelets and steaks as well as a minimum-wage line cook can. Anybody can shove inventory management and a knapsack solver into a Raspberry Pi, I want real AI and robotics.
Arrath 2y ago
If we truly insist on shoving AI into my fridge, I just want it to learn my eating habits and monitor the stock levels, pushing an updated grocery list to my phone's notes app that I can pull up at any time and see "expected to run out of milk in 3 days (expires in 1)" or "2 sandwiches worth of salami left if you control your midnight snacking"
asdff 2y ago
Hope you can stomach the monthly fee that will demand