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This is a very non-ADHD mindset

by kohbo 2y ago

llamaimperative 2y ago
I guess in that case, it's hopeless, don't try, since you can't have absolute certainty of the imperviousness of your new routine then just continue improv-jazzing through life. Is that better? Of course that's utterly insane. If you have ADHD then you should be putting more effort into routinization, not less and certainly not making up reasons that you can't even try.
- viridian 2y ago
  This reads as needlessly hostile, maybe from assuming the worst interpretation of what kohbo is saying. Charitably, I read it as 'Telling someone to get good at the thing they are struggling with doesn't work'. This is similar to the oft seen adages of 'just do things to make you happy to fix your depression' met with sarcastic 'gee thanks, I'm cured' responses. Certain habits, skills, etc, might be more important for some people to focus on than others to manage debilitating effects, but that importance comes with the consequence of those same feats being harder.
  - llamaimperative 2y ago
    “What do you do if your habit framework gets jostled” “You adapt to it — don’t let fear of inevitable challenges prevent you from starting” “No thanks I have ADHD” Okay, what other possible answer is there? There’s no way to guarantee your habits don’t get jostled and there’s no method to correct it than adapting. Any specific adaptation method is also notably harder for ADHD folks too. Yes, it is harder, that’s why in order to succeed at this thing one needs to work harder. Any Quick Tip that’d make this easier for an ADHD person would make it easier for everyone else too, ergo it’d be the default advice, and it’d still be harder for an ADHD person to apply. I think it's fair to say "you adapt" is ~useless advice for everyone, FWIW.
- rchaud 2y ago
  > If you have ADHD then you should be putting more effort into routinization Despite the insistence of many in our parents' generations, ADHD is not a disorder of not applying oneself hard enough.
  - llamaimperative 2y ago
    I didn’t say it was.

This is a very non-ADHD mindset

by kohbo 2y ago

This is a very non-ADHD mindset

I guess in that case, it's hopeless, don't try, since you can't have absolute certainty of the imperviousness of your new routine then just continue improv-jazzing through life. Is that better? Of course that's utterly insane. If you have ADHD then you should be putting more effort into routinization, not less and certainly not making up reasons that you can't even try.

viridian 2y ago
This reads as needlessly hostile, maybe from assuming the worst interpretation of what kohbo is saying. Charitably, I read it as 'Telling someone to get good at the thing they are struggling with doesn't work'. This is similar to the oft seen adages of 'just do things to make you happy to fix your depression' met with sarcastic 'gee thanks, I'm cured' responses. Certain habits, skills, etc, might be more important for some people to focus on than others to manage debilitating effects, but that importance comes with the consequence of those same feats being harder.
- llamaimperative 2y ago
  “What do you do if your habit framework gets jostled” “You adapt to it — don’t let fear of inevitable challenges prevent you from starting” “No thanks I have ADHD” Okay, what other possible answer is there? There’s no way to guarantee your habits don’t get jostled and there’s no method to correct it than adapting. Any specific adaptation method is also notably harder for ADHD folks too. Yes, it is harder, that’s why in order to succeed at this thing one needs to work harder. Any Quick Tip that’d make this easier for an ADHD person would make it easier for everyone else too, ergo it’d be the default advice, and it’d still be harder for an ADHD person to apply. I think it's fair to say "you adapt" is ~useless advice for everyone, FWIW.
rchaud 2y ago
> If you have ADHD then you should be putting more effort into routinization Despite the insistence of many in our parents' generations, ADHD is not a disorder of not applying oneself hard enough.
- llamaimperative 2y ago
  I didn’t say it was.