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No… it’s not. But if you know something I don’t the 5 primes will certainly be happy to pay you handsomely for the implementation!

nuz 2y ago
https://github.com/wjakob/instant-meshes https://github.com/wjakob/instant-meshes
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- explaininjs 2y ago
  A piece of software that hasn’t been touched in 5 years, let alone adopted in any professional production environment? Cool…
  - portaouflop 2y ago
    AFAICT it’s used in professional applications and software does not need to be constantly updated, especially if it’s not for the web.
    - explaininjs 2y ago
      If the claim was that the problem was solved, sure it might make sense that the package does not need to be touched (in reality the field isn’t as slow as you presume, but I digress). Instead, the claim is that it’s “nearly^{TM}” solved, so the proof being an abandoned repo from half a decade ago actually speaks volumes: it’s solved except for the hard part, and nobody knows how to solve the hard part.
      - portaouflop 2y ago
        Well yea I wasn’t claiming the problem is solved, that was GP. I don’t think you can truly “solve” any problem if you think about it.
        explaininjs 2y ago
        I'm talking satisfying business needs not philosophical mumbo jumbo. If you need a model to move, you give it to a rigger. If the mesh is bad, they will first need to remesh it or the rigging wont work right. This is the problem. They will solve this problem using a manual, labor intensive, process. It's not particularly difficult, any 3D artist considering themselves a professional ought to be able to do it. But it's not the sort of thing where you just press a button and turn some knobs and you're done either. It takes a lot of work, and in particularly bad cases it's easier to just start from scratch - remeshing a garbage mesh is indeed harder than modeling from scratch in many cases. Once either of these mechanisms have been applied, the problem will be solved and the rigger can move on to rigging. So yes, algorithms exist that pretend to remesh, and every professional modeling systems has one built in (because your sales guys don't want to be the ones without one), but professionals do not use them in production environments (my original claim, if you recall) because their results are so bad. Indeed I'm told several meme accounts exist dedicated to how badly they screw things up when folks do try to take the shortcuts. If this project was aiming to solve the problem (which is possible, as I have just explained), they would not have given up 5 years ago. Because it sure isn't solved now.
- spookie 2y ago
  I love that tool but it really doesn't fix bad topology. It gets you somewhere closer, but not a fix. Moreover, depending on what you have at hand, the resolution of your remeshing might destroy a LOT of detail or is unable to accomodate thin sections. Retopo isn't a solved problem. It only is for really basic, convex meshes.

nuz 2y ago

https://github.com/wjakob/instant-meshes https://github.com/wjakob/instant-meshes

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explaininjs 2y ago
A piece of software that hasn’t been touched in 5 years, let alone adopted in any professional production environment? Cool…
- portaouflop 2y ago
  AFAICT it’s used in professional applications and software does not need to be constantly updated, especially if it’s not for the web.
  - explaininjs 2y ago
    If the claim was that the problem was solved, sure it might make sense that the package does not need to be touched (in reality the field isn’t as slow as you presume, but I digress). Instead, the claim is that it’s “nearly^{TM}” solved, so the proof being an abandoned repo from half a decade ago actually speaks volumes: it’s solved except for the hard part, and nobody knows how to solve the hard part.
    - portaouflop 2y ago
      Well yea I wasn’t claiming the problem is solved, that was GP. I don’t think you can truly “solve” any problem if you think about it.
      - explaininjs 2y ago
        I'm talking satisfying business needs not philosophical mumbo jumbo. If you need a model to move, you give it to a rigger. If the mesh is bad, they will first need to remesh it or the rigging wont work right. This is the problem. They will solve this problem using a manual, labor intensive, process. It's not particularly difficult, any 3D artist considering themselves a professional ought to be able to do it. But it's not the sort of thing where you just press a button and turn some knobs and you're done either. It takes a lot of work, and in particularly bad cases it's easier to just start from scratch - remeshing a garbage mesh is indeed harder than modeling from scratch in many cases. Once either of these mechanisms have been applied, the problem will be solved and the rigger can move on to rigging. So yes, algorithms exist that pretend to remesh, and every professional modeling systems has one built in (because your sales guys don't want to be the ones without one), but professionals do not use them in production environments (my original claim, if you recall) because their results are so bad. Indeed I'm told several meme accounts exist dedicated to how badly they screw things up when folks do try to take the shortcuts. If this project was aiming to solve the problem (which is possible, as I have just explained), they would not have given up 5 years ago. Because it sure isn't solved now.
spookie 2y ago
I love that tool but it really doesn't fix bad topology. It gets you somewhere closer, but not a fix. Moreover, depending on what you have at hand, the resolution of your remeshing might destroy a LOT of detail or is unable to accomodate thin sections. Retopo isn't a solved problem. It only is for really basic, convex meshes.