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So long, I guess, don't let the door hit you on the way out? Employees of that company must feel really valued.

alephnerd 2y ago
> Employees of that company must feel really valued They were paid on the higher end of Czechia TCs > don't let the door hit you on the way out Most of the high TC companies across Eastern Europe required hybrid so there aren't many options if you want to be remote first - we get tax holidays from the Czech, Romanian, Polish, Bulgarian, Hungarian, etc government if we invest $2-5mil in an office AND can prove that we have at least 15-20 employees working in that office. It's hard to justify high wages when fully remote means you are competing globally. The Czech office itself expanded as a reaction to finding out that remote productivity between the US and abroad was comparable. Going remote first means you are competing with a global market, but being hybrid means you at least have facetime with leaders, and stuff does get done faster when dealing with cross-dependencies. And ime, I saw the rise of the same kind of anti-techie disgust in a lot of Eastern Europe that I saw in the US. It's hard for most people in a country where median household incomes are around $10k-20k/yr to empathize with employees earning $50-100k/yr who want to not go into a fully furnished office with catered food, events, and mentorship 2-3 days a week when most other employees earn a fraction working in a car factory or tending bar for drunk stag partiers while rents reach Dallas levels.
- portaouflop 2y ago
  >fully furnished office with catered food, events, and mentorship 2-3 days a week The reality is you scramble to find a workstation and are cramped in a tiny room with 10 others, there is no way to concentrate and be productive; catered food that is barely edible for humans and horrible for the environment; not sure what you mean by events, except pointless ones that are scheduled after work, so basically unpaid work; and mentorship don’t make me laugh. As I stated above I’m more than happy to work in a different industry than tech, it’s toxic af, the workload is high and growing and ultimately most tech companies are nothing than managers of rich peoples money and don’t provide any value to humans.

> Employees of that company must feel really valued They were paid on the higher end of Czechia TCs > don't let the door hit you on the way out Most of the high TC companies across Eastern Europe required hybrid so there aren't many options if you want to be remote first - we get tax holidays from the Czech, Romanian, Polish, Bulgarian, Hungarian, etc government if we invest $2-5mil in an office AND can prove that we have at least 15-20 employees working in that office. It's hard to justify high wages when fully remote means you are competing globally. The Czech office itself expanded as a reaction to finding out that remote productivity between the US and abroad was comparable. Going remote first means you are competing with a global market, but being hybrid means you at least have facetime with leaders, and stuff does get done faster when dealing with cross-dependencies. And ime, I saw the rise of the same kind of anti-techie disgust in a lot of Eastern Europe that I saw in the US. It's hard for most people in a country where median household incomes are around $10k-20k/yr to empathize with employees earning $50-100k/yr who want to not go into a fully furnished office with catered food, events, and mentorship 2-3 days a week when most other employees earn a fraction working in a car factory or tending bar for drunk stag partiers while rents reach Dallas levels.

portaouflop 2y ago
>fully furnished office with catered food, events, and mentorship 2-3 days a week The reality is you scramble to find a workstation and are cramped in a tiny room with 10 others, there is no way to concentrate and be productive; catered food that is barely edible for humans and horrible for the environment; not sure what you mean by events, except pointless ones that are scheduled after work, so basically unpaid work; and mentorship don’t make me laugh. As I stated above I’m more than happy to work in a different industry than tech, it’s toxic af, the workload is high and growing and ultimately most tech companies are nothing than managers of rich peoples money and don’t provide any value to humans.