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Like the article asks, what is the 1 trillion dollar problem gen-AI solves? Sure there are use cases - but the point is that the potential value doesn't remotel

Like the article asks, what is the 1 trillion dollar problem gen-AI solves? Sure there are use cases - but the point is that the potential value doesn't remotely line up with the investments being made.

stopthe 2y ago
World military spending is estimated at over $2 tn per year. Ongoing Russia's invasion in Ukraine shows that a hypothetical UAV with fully autonomous capabilities (because every known frequency is soon jammed) will meet enormous demand.
- sieistein 2y ago
  GenAI won't help with autonomous systems.
  - stopthe 2y ago
    My assumption is that only part of those $1 tn will go specifically into generative applications. The Goldman Sachs' paper in most instances mentions AI in general. But one can also argue that actively seeking and choosing targets is a generative task, given a proper encoding of a battlefield situation and current mission.
    - dvfjsdhgfv 2y ago
      Except that in spite of enormous investments and engineering efforts we still have problems with fully autonomous vehicles and it's unclear it would really happen anytime soon, and here the classification problem is whether you're going to bomb an enemy or your own people. I'm not saying it's not gonna happen but it's terribly hard and 80% accuracy can wreak havoc on innocent people.
      - stopthe 2y ago
        Russian air force has already destroyed numerous civilian buildings, in many cases killing dozens of people far behind the frontlines[0]. In at least one case, when 59 people attending a soldier's funeral were killed, there are "reasonable grounds to believe that the reception was the intended target of an attack, using a precision weapon"[1]. I think it shows that the military will be happy with much lower quality of classification than e.g. acceptable for driving in downtown San Francisco. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_civilians_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_civilians_in_the_Ru... [1] https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/country-reports/attack-funeral-reception-hroza https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/country-reports/attack-fu...
  - user432678 2y ago
    — Hey ChatUAV, please bomb enemy’s military base — Certainly! bombs own civilian hospital — No, the hell are you doing… — You are right. I apologise for the oversight.

stopthe 2y ago

World military spending is estimated at over $2 tn per year. Ongoing Russia's invasion in Ukraine shows that a hypothetical UAV with fully autonomous capabilities (because every known frequency is soon jammed) will meet enormous demand.

sieistein 2y ago
GenAI won't help with autonomous systems.
- stopthe 2y ago
  My assumption is that only part of those $1 tn will go specifically into generative applications. The Goldman Sachs' paper in most instances mentions AI in general. But one can also argue that actively seeking and choosing targets is a generative task, given a proper encoding of a battlefield situation and current mission.
  - dvfjsdhgfv 2y ago
    Except that in spite of enormous investments and engineering efforts we still have problems with fully autonomous vehicles and it's unclear it would really happen anytime soon, and here the classification problem is whether you're going to bomb an enemy or your own people. I'm not saying it's not gonna happen but it's terribly hard and 80% accuracy can wreak havoc on innocent people.
    - stopthe 2y ago
      Russian air force has already destroyed numerous civilian buildings, in many cases killing dozens of people far behind the frontlines[0]. In at least one case, when 59 people attending a soldier's funeral were killed, there are "reasonable grounds to believe that the reception was the intended target of an attack, using a precision weapon"[1]. I think it shows that the military will be happy with much lower quality of classification than e.g. acceptable for driving in downtown San Francisco. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_civilians_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_civilians_in_the_Ru... [1] https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/country-reports/attack-funeral-reception-hroza https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/country-reports/attack-fu...
- user432678 2y ago
  — Hey ChatUAV, please bomb enemy’s military base — Certainly! bombs own civilian hospital — No, the hell are you doing… — You are right. I apologise for the oversight.