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The upcoming Toyota Hilux Champ is a modern alternative to the venerable Kei Truck. https://www.motor1.com/news/701958/toyota-hilux-champ-cheap-pickup/amp/ htt

by xedeon 2y ago

The upcoming Toyota Hilux Champ is a modern alternative to the venerable Kei Truck. https://www.motor1.com/news/701958/toyota-hilux-champ-cheap-pickup/amp/ https://www.motor1.com/news/701958/toyota-hilux-champ-cheap-... I really hope Toyota brings it to the U.S. it will sell like hotcakes. I really like the modularity aspect the most.

bamboozled 2y ago
The kei car or truck is a class of vehicles of a certain engine size in which owners don’t have to pay road tax in Japan. This includes Suzuki Jimny. I don’t really see how one model of car can take on like 50 models of car ? The champ looks larger than most kei cars anyway…so it’s a different class of vehicle.
- xedeon 2y ago
  Key word is “alternative” which is what I alluded to. It fits most of the use cases of the Kei class of vehicles and the price is really attractive. I was also referring outside of the Japanese domestic market. Which the Hilux Champ is slated to be released.
  - bamboozled 2y ago
    It's "kei" not key: Kei car is the smallest category of Japanese, expressway-legal motor vehicles. 'Kei' is diminutive for kei-jidōsha, (kanji: 軽自動車), "light automobile" or "compact automobile" (pronounced [keːdʑidoːɕa]). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kei_car#Description https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kei_car#Description
    - xedeon 2y ago
      You must have misread: *Key word* is “alternative” which is what I alluded to. It fits most of the use cases of the *Kei* class of vehicles and the price is really attractive.
nrp 2y ago
The Telo Truck is more directly a modern take on getting the most truck into the smallest footprint: https://telotrucks.com/ https://telotrucks.com/
- xedeon 2y ago
  Yeah, but that's an EV with a base price of $49,999, whereas the Hi-lux is around $10-12K. That's coming from someone who has been an all-EV household since 2017.
sickofparadox 2y ago
It will not be brought to the US because of safety regulations (no airbags, among other things) and the chicken truck tariff[1]. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax
zdragnar 2y ago
Oh wow, that would do insanely well here.

by xedeon 2y ago

bamboozled 2y ago

The kei car or truck is a class of vehicles of a certain engine size in which owners don’t have to pay road tax in Japan. This includes Suzuki Jimny. I don’t really see how one model of car can take on like 50 models of car ? The champ looks larger than most kei cars anyway…so it’s a different class of vehicle.

xedeon 2y ago
Key word is “alternative” which is what I alluded to. It fits most of the use cases of the Kei class of vehicles and the price is really attractive. I was also referring outside of the Japanese domestic market. Which the Hilux Champ is slated to be released.
- bamboozled 2y ago
  It's "kei" not key: Kei car is the smallest category of Japanese, expressway-legal motor vehicles. 'Kei' is diminutive for kei-jidōsha, (kanji: 軽自動車), "light automobile" or "compact automobile" (pronounced [keːdʑidoːɕa]). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kei_car#Description https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kei_car#Description
  - xedeon 2y ago
    You must have misread: *Key word* is “alternative” which is what I alluded to. It fits most of the use cases of the *Kei* class of vehicles and the price is really attractive.

nrp 2y ago

The Telo Truck is more directly a modern take on getting the most truck into the smallest footprint: https://telotrucks.com/ https://telotrucks.com/

xedeon 2y ago
Yeah, but that's an EV with a base price of $49,999, whereas the Hi-lux is around $10-12K. That's coming from someone who has been an all-EV household since 2017.

sickofparadox 2y ago

It will not be brought to the US because of safety regulations (no airbags, among other things) and the chicken truck tariff[1]. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax

zdragnar 2y ago

Oh wow, that would do insanely well here.