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Yep, as if we don't have a rapidly heating planet, Microsoft wants to add to that by adding several gigatons of e-waste (measurement is pulled out of my butt, j

Yep, as if we don't have a rapidly heating planet, Microsoft wants to add to that by adding several gigatons of e-waste (measurement is pulled out of my butt, just like Apple claiming it extracted 2204 lb of gold from recycled iPhones(1), a number which is basically 1000kg in lbs(2). How much do you want to bet this is a number someone made up, converted to lbs, put in its official report(3), and the stupid copy-pasting "journalists" are too dumb to notice or challenge?) 1) https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-has-literally-extracted-a-ton-of-gold-from-recycling-old-hardware/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-has-literally-extracted-... 2) https://duckduckgo.com/?q=1000kg+in+lb https://duckduckgo.com/?q=1000kg+in+lb 3) https://images.apple.com/environment/pdf/Apple_Environmental_Responsibility_Report_2016.pdf https://images.apple.com/environment/pdf/Apple_Environmental...

gruez 2y ago
I think you're giving them too little credit. It doesn't seem too implausible that Apple keeps track of how many phones they recycle using their recycling program, and with that number they multiply that by how much recoverable gold is in each phone to get a total amount?
- saagarjha 2y ago
  I think they're upset that someone clearly is doing measurements in tons and then doing an overly precise conversion.
- netsharc 2y ago
  The zdnet article and the PDF also says 189,544lb of cobalt, 39,672lb of nickel, 44,080lb of lead, 130,036lb of zinc, 4,408lb of tin, and 6,612lb of silver. Divided by 2.204 they're 86000kg, 18000kg, 20000kg, 59000kg, 2000kg and 3000kg. How conveniently round in metric, but looking like they're giving you the precise weight to the nearest lb (and numbers not seemingly pulled out of thin air) in American... The more obnoxious thing is they're not even dividing by the precise divider, as seen on the DDG link in my original reply.
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gruez 2y ago

I think you're giving them too little credit. It doesn't seem too implausible that Apple keeps track of how many phones they recycle using their recycling program, and with that number they multiply that by how much recoverable gold is in each phone to get a total amount?

saagarjha 2y ago
I think they're upset that someone clearly is doing measurements in tons and then doing an overly precise conversion.
netsharc 2y ago
The zdnet article and the PDF also says 189,544lb of cobalt, 39,672lb of nickel, 44,080lb of lead, 130,036lb of zinc, 4,408lb of tin, and 6,612lb of silver. Divided by 2.204 they're 86000kg, 18000kg, 20000kg, 59000kg, 2000kg and 3000kg. How conveniently round in metric, but looking like they're giving you the precise weight to the nearest lb (and numbers not seemingly pulled out of thin air) in American... The more obnoxious thing is they're not even dividing by the precise divider, as seen on the DDG link in my original reply.

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