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Something the article doesn't touch on (which I've experienced after going through the AWS grinder) Everything on LinkedIn is just flooded with junk resumes. E

Something the article doesn't touch on (which I've experienced after going through the AWS grinder) Everything on LinkedIn is just flooded with junk resumes. Every single IT position will invariably have "see how you compare to 500+ applicants!" in it Is LinkedIn just overrun with bots? Is it people from overseas trying to get on the H1B train? Did the years of "learn to code!" just flood the market with kids who desperately want a "tech job" to escape the crushing reality of capitalism? Does the public (government) sector suffer from this same kind of 'applicant stuffing' problem? I'd gladly take a pay cut if it meant I could simply go work somewhere in peace until I'm old enough to retire. I'm sick of ping-ponging around I'd gotten so desperate I even shared my resume on Reddit the other week. It's exhausting

taylodl 2y ago
> Does the public (government) sector suffer from this same kind of 'applicant stuffing' problem? People spend years trying to get a federal government job, because of the perceived job security. There's an entire industry devoted to getting a federal government job. Then again, if Trump gets elected this Fall, the thrust of Project 2025 is to remove that security - so who knows how this strategy will work out long-term?
- richwater 2y ago
  > job security It's only "job security" because people know they can do the absolute bare minimum and never get fired. The market isn't demanding their skills such that they have negotiating power; their employer just have absolutely no incentive, oversight or accountability to do anything.
- BenFranklin100 2y ago
  I was recently downvoted for pointing out this very fact. The pay ain’t the best in a government job, but it’s nearly impossible to get fired as long as one has a pulse.
- hnburnsy 2y ago
  ugh, can we not be reddit please?
  - taylodl 2y ago
    Project 2025 is a relevant concern for anyone seeking a federal job. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
    - hnburnsy 2y ago
      I guess not
kazinator 2y ago
Something the article doesn't touch on is ... anecdotes with actual tech workers. Let's see: marketing writer, tech recruiter, contract worker (in unspecified area), someone "in automation".
ebiester 2y ago
There are a lot of people already on the H1B train scrambling to avoid leaving the country. There are a lot of people who don't know how to write a resume. There are a lot of people who will just spam everywhere without understanding what they're applying for. Hoping someone will bite. Those resumes are often auto-rejected or quickly rejected. I may have 500 on the queue and know 450 will be a 30 second rejection - still takes forever and it's also demotivating here. The best key I can say is to write the cover letter, and spend the 15 minutes to match what you do to what they ask for. Bold it if it's in the job description.
- lupire 2y ago
  There is a lot of resume copy-pasting If you are in a position to see a lot of techie resumes from unfiltered applicants, your spot some duplicated awkward phraseology of content-free resume babble, and if you paste those phrases into web search, you'll find lots of resumes with the same phrasing.
whaleofatw2022 2y ago
> Did the years of "learn to code!" just flood the market with kids who desperately want a "tech job" to escape the crushing reality of capitalism? Yes and what's worse is some companies encouraged or ran their own free ones in a solid attempt to drive down tech salaries, while the general talent pool is only really pre-selected for company culture and some level of language (not skill) fit. Still lots of decent to great folks in that mix but overall it was a sham from day 1, just like many 'low codes tools/saas
Tade0 2y ago
A good chunk of those "applicants" are likely agencies which have been hoarding CVs that they're authorized to submit like that. Occasionally you'll see a job listing saying "no agencies!" due to this, because candidate quality aside, they're getting a ton of spam.

taylodl 2y ago

> Does the public (government) sector suffer from this same kind of 'applicant stuffing' problem? People spend years trying to get a federal government job, because of the perceived job security. There's an entire industry devoted to getting a federal government job. Then again, if Trump gets elected this Fall, the thrust of Project 2025 is to remove that security - so who knows how this strategy will work out long-term?

richwater 2y ago
> job security It's only "job security" because people know they can do the absolute bare minimum and never get fired. The market isn't demanding their skills such that they have negotiating power; their employer just have absolutely no incentive, oversight or accountability to do anything.
BenFranklin100 2y ago
I was recently downvoted for pointing out this very fact. The pay ain’t the best in a government job, but it’s nearly impossible to get fired as long as one has a pulse.
hnburnsy 2y ago
ugh, can we not be reddit please?
- taylodl 2y ago
  Project 2025 is a relevant concern for anyone seeking a federal job. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
  - hnburnsy 2y ago
    I guess not

kazinator 2y ago

Something the article doesn't touch on is ... anecdotes with actual tech workers. Let's see: marketing writer, tech recruiter, contract worker (in unspecified area), someone "in automation".

ebiester 2y ago

There are a lot of people already on the H1B train scrambling to avoid leaving the country. There are a lot of people who don't know how to write a resume. There are a lot of people who will just spam everywhere without understanding what they're applying for. Hoping someone will bite. Those resumes are often auto-rejected or quickly rejected. I may have 500 on the queue and know 450 will be a 30 second rejection - still takes forever and it's also demotivating here. The best key I can say is to write the cover letter, and spend the 15 minutes to match what you do to what they ask for. Bold it if it's in the job description.

lupire 2y ago
There is a lot of resume copy-pasting If you are in a position to see a lot of techie resumes from unfiltered applicants, your spot some duplicated awkward phraseology of content-free resume babble, and if you paste those phrases into web search, you'll find lots of resumes with the same phrasing.

whaleofatw2022 2y ago

> Did the years of "learn to code!" just flood the market with kids who desperately want a "tech job" to escape the crushing reality of capitalism? Yes and what's worse is some companies encouraged or ran their own free ones in a solid attempt to drive down tech salaries, while the general talent pool is only really pre-selected for company culture and some level of language (not skill) fit. Still lots of decent to great folks in that mix but overall it was a sham from day 1, just like many 'low codes tools/saas

Tade0 2y ago

A good chunk of those "applicants" are likely agencies which have been hoarding CVs that they're authorized to submit like that. Occasionally you'll see a job listing saying "no agencies!" due to this, because candidate quality aside, they're getting a ton of spam.