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This has been my experience too having been a long time in the SRE niche, and I think it's a factor of a couple of things: the market being over-saturated both

This has been my experience too having been a long time in the SRE niche, and I think it's a factor of a couple of things: the market being over-saturated both from the huge numbers of layoffs happening in the recent past and the hangers-on/bootcamp attendees expecting outsized comp with little experience so postings get absolutely flooded with applicants. I spoke with a hiring manager just within the last few weeks and they said for a senior-ish position, they received almost 1000 CVs. Were they all qualified? Who knows, it seems like it would be almost impossible to find the true gems in a pile of shit like that. A lot of these companies also seem to be reaching beyond their grasp as well. I don't think a lot of them necessarily have the vision, nor the wisdom on their staff to recognize a well-rounded background, especially if there isn't the blaring siren of a FAANG on someone's resume. They're simply not equipped to dig in. It's probably also a matter of raw number of years, they're afraid that if you join, you'll get bored then they'll be back to square one (been there).

swozey 2y ago
The current market has me absolutely terrified. Twitter was one of my dream companies to work for because, for anyone unfamiliar, they had incredible open source projects and the complexity/reqs of running it were intense. I love the challenge of scaling systems, it's like building fast cars and squeezing what you can out of what you've got. The market getting flooded with thousands of Twitter, Meta, Google, etc SWE/SREs who can work at scale has seriously constricted what felt like was finally sysadmins/engs being appreciated for what they do. I've also heard of people getting THOUSANDS of resumes. I was hiring 2 SRE 1s last year and barely received any at all. Unless my Recruiter got thousands and filters that well. This WAS before a ton of Meta/G/etc layoffs though. I wonder if they've flooded the market now. I had both hired by I believe last summer, so prior to a bunch of layoffs. I didn't expect them to know much more beyond a computer and a thirst to learn/program. I'm self-taught as is my entire team. We didn't need Stanford grads. We hired a previous IT Admin who had never touched distsys/code (me at one point) and promoted one of our customer support agents to SRE. I'm very proud of that because it was incredibly hard for me to go break into the field.

swozey 2y ago

The current market has me absolutely terrified. Twitter was one of my dream companies to work for because, for anyone unfamiliar, they had incredible open source projects and the complexity/reqs of running it were intense. I love the challenge of scaling systems, it's like building fast cars and squeezing what you can out of what you've got. The market getting flooded with thousands of Twitter, Meta, Google, etc SWE/SREs who can work at scale has seriously constricted what felt like was finally sysadmins/engs being appreciated for what they do. I've also heard of people getting THOUSANDS of resumes. I was hiring 2 SRE 1s last year and barely received any at all. Unless my Recruiter got thousands and filters that well. This WAS before a ton of Meta/G/etc layoffs though. I wonder if they've flooded the market now. I had both hired by I believe last summer, so prior to a bunch of layoffs. I didn't expect them to know much more beyond a computer and a thirst to learn/program. I'm self-taught as is my entire team. We didn't need Stanford grads. We hired a previous IT Admin who had never touched distsys/code (me at one point) and promoted one of our customer support agents to SRE. I'm very proud of that because it was incredibly hard for me to go break into the field.