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While this advice is sound, it borders on extreme. I'd tell my kids (I don't have any, and don't plan on it btw) to hang around good people. Some of those good

While this advice is sound, it borders on extreme. I'd tell my kids (I don't have any, and don't plan on it btw) to hang around good people. Some of those good people will 'get shit done', others won't but there is something to gain from being around good people. Valuing people on their amount of output seems to cheapen their existence. I know a lot of people who don't 'get shit done' but are great people who I value, and I am happy to have in my life. I don't blame my lack of productivity on those around me.

citricsquid 14y ago
I'd guess the best way to summarise the type of people you mean are "positive" people. Positive in their outlook, attitude and output.
- ZanderEarth32 14y ago
  Yes, 'positive' is a better way to describe the people I am referring to.
vijayr 14y ago
This is very true. Just curious - aren't we all judged every single day, by how much 'useful' or 'productive' we are? At work, among friends, while trying to find a mate..heck, even within families.
- ZanderEarth32 14y ago
  Yes, completely. And I don't believe it's healthy or beneficial. Developing a culture where only those who 'produce' or 'build cool shit' or 'get shit done' are valued can breed feelings of inadequecies in people who feel like they 'aren't keeping up'. This doesn't really apply to the work place, where those who produce should be valued over those who don't but outside of work, in 'real life', everything shouldn't be about how much you've done, or are doing. Sometimes, just being positive, or not doing anything harmful is good enough. Every moment of you life shouldn't be devoted to doing stuff, unless you want it to. I find moments when I am not doing anything, or maybe watching TV, just as important to my personal development as when I am building stuff (trying in my case). It's about a holistic approach. 'Getting shit done' should be taken with moderation as should 'not getting shit done'.
  - Mz 14y ago
    IME, too much emphasis on "getting shit done" can result in exactly that: What gets done is so shitty that you would be better off twiddling your thumbs and watching the dew dry with someone committed to first doing no harm.

citricsquid 14y ago

I'd guess the best way to summarise the type of people you mean are "positive" people. Positive in their outlook, attitude and output.

ZanderEarth32 14y ago
Yes, 'positive' is a better way to describe the people I am referring to.

vijayr 14y ago

This is very true. Just curious - aren't we all judged every single day, by how much 'useful' or 'productive' we are? At work, among friends, while trying to find a mate..heck, even within families.

ZanderEarth32 14y ago
Yes, completely. And I don't believe it's healthy or beneficial. Developing a culture where only those who 'produce' or 'build cool shit' or 'get shit done' are valued can breed feelings of inadequecies in people who feel like they 'aren't keeping up'. This doesn't really apply to the work place, where those who produce should be valued over those who don't but outside of work, in 'real life', everything shouldn't be about how much you've done, or are doing. Sometimes, just being positive, or not doing anything harmful is good enough. Every moment of you life shouldn't be devoted to doing stuff, unless you want it to. I find moments when I am not doing anything, or maybe watching TV, just as important to my personal development as when I am building stuff (trying in my case). It's about a holistic approach. 'Getting shit done' should be taken with moderation as should 'not getting shit done'.
- Mz 14y ago
  IME, too much emphasis on "getting shit done" can result in exactly that: What gets done is so shitty that you would be better off twiddling your thumbs and watching the dew dry with someone committed to first doing no harm.