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For those posting REMOTE (US) or Washington State-based jobs, please provide salary ranges in accordance with RCW 49.58.110. The civil penalties for not doing s

For those posting REMOTE (US) or Washington State-based jobs, please provide salary ranges in accordance with RCW 49.58.110. The civil penalties for not doing so can be significant.

zegerjan 2y ago
I'd not be surprised if that would lead to job with REMOTE (US EXCEPT WA) soon.
- cde-v 2y ago
  It would have to be "REMOTE (US EXCEPT CA, CO, CT, MD, NV, NY, RI, WA)" unless there is something different about the WA transparency law that I don't know.
- swozey 2y ago
  I'm in CO so pay a lot of attention to this as it's a law to post salaries here. I really haven't seen THAT many CO excluded jobs. I definitely have seen them. More often than not I just see no mention of the statute/salary at all. We used to have a site to track them but he shut it down https://mentallyanimated.com/coloradoexcluded.html https://mentallyanimated.com/coloradoexcluded.html There were big names, like Spotify, IIRC Adobe, on it. https://www.forbes.com/sites/isabelcontreras/2021/11/01/whats-the-pay-more-employers-including-chime-and-accenture-are-falling-in-line-with-colorado-law-requiring-salary-ranges-in-job-postings/?sh=5f218eb7670a https://www.forbes.com/sites/isabelcontreras/2021/11/01/what... Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20210717051519/https://www.coloradoexcluded.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20210717051519/https://www.color...
  - genewitch 2y ago
    this looks like something i could host for the community, but wayback is having issues letting me look at more than just the page you linked. If you remember anything about the architecture or how the data was portrayed/displayed, email me at my webzone (i just updated my profile). It looks like it was manually vetted, which i could not do for the community. i could see it being gamified or otherwise attacked, and i'm loathe to say it but LLM+RAG and a way for users to flag records might suffice to start. In fact, what might be easier is a fediverse bot or similar that is both input from users to a job posting URL, as well as posting automatically vetted "excluded in <territory>" that's backed by an rss feed of a simple LIFO index page. That way you get the best of all three worlds for the UI and i don't have to set up email.
jedilord 2y ago
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strictnein 2y ago
I don't think this is something anyone has to worry about at all, assuming their actual job listing has the information. You can run banner ads saying you're hiring remote Devs without specifying all the legally required things about salary, non-discrimination, accomodations, etc. Unless we're now at a point that posting a link and providing some information about the page on the other side of that link requires you to also comply legally with everything that page is required to post?
- nullindividual 2y ago
  My post refers to the job postings themselves (in whatever form they come in). Many listed or linked here do not have salary ranges.
  - strictnein 2y ago
    Ahh, k. I misinterpreted what you said. Thanks for the clarification.

For those posting REMOTE (US) or Washington State-based jobs, please provide salary ranges in accordance with RCW 49.58.110. The civil penalties for not doing so can be significant.

zegerjan 2y ago

I'd not be surprised if that would lead to job with REMOTE (US EXCEPT WA) soon.

cde-v 2y ago
It would have to be "REMOTE (US EXCEPT CA, CO, CT, MD, NV, NY, RI, WA)" unless there is something different about the WA transparency law that I don't know.
swozey 2y ago
I'm in CO so pay a lot of attention to this as it's a law to post salaries here. I really haven't seen THAT many CO excluded jobs. I definitely have seen them. More often than not I just see no mention of the statute/salary at all. We used to have a site to track them but he shut it down https://mentallyanimated.com/coloradoexcluded.html https://mentallyanimated.com/coloradoexcluded.html There were big names, like Spotify, IIRC Adobe, on it. https://www.forbes.com/sites/isabelcontreras/2021/11/01/whats-the-pay-more-employers-including-chime-and-accenture-are-falling-in-line-with-colorado-law-requiring-salary-ranges-in-job-postings/?sh=5f218eb7670a https://www.forbes.com/sites/isabelcontreras/2021/11/01/what... Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20210717051519/https://www.coloradoexcluded.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20210717051519/https://www.color...
- genewitch 2y ago
  this looks like something i could host for the community, but wayback is having issues letting me look at more than just the page you linked. If you remember anything about the architecture or how the data was portrayed/displayed, email me at my webzone (i just updated my profile). It looks like it was manually vetted, which i could not do for the community. i could see it being gamified or otherwise attacked, and i'm loathe to say it but LLM+RAG and a way for users to flag records might suffice to start. In fact, what might be easier is a fediverse bot or similar that is both input from users to a job posting URL, as well as posting automatically vetted "excluded in <territory>" that's backed by an rss feed of a simple LIFO index page. That way you get the best of all three worlds for the UI and i don't have to set up email.

jedilord 2y ago

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strictnein 2y ago

I don't think this is something anyone has to worry about at all, assuming their actual job listing has the information. You can run banner ads saying you're hiring remote Devs without specifying all the legally required things about salary, non-discrimination, accomodations, etc. Unless we're now at a point that posting a link and providing some information about the page on the other side of that link requires you to also comply legally with everything that page is required to post?

nullindividual 2y ago
My post refers to the job postings themselves (in whatever form they come in). Many listed or linked here do not have salary ranges.
- strictnein 2y ago
  Ahh, k. I misinterpreted what you said. Thanks for the clarification.