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Is desktop on the roadmap? I use HeyNote (desktop) every day and the only feature I _really_ want is multiple notes. You added that, but I need desktop becaus

Is desktop on the roadmap? I use HeyNote (desktop) every day and the only feature I _really_ want is multiple notes. You added that, but I need desktop because of corporate rules.

pax 2y ago
desktop, or offline? isn't the PWA satisfactory?
- stronglikedan 2y ago
  not everyone has 24-hour online access
  - spartanatreyu 2y ago
    PWAs don't need online access. They only need initial access to download them. Same with plain old websites if they're made to run offline (e.g. https://devdocs.io/offline https://devdocs.io/offline).
- kiratp 2y ago
  I can’t back up the data in a PWA.
  - michaelrpeskin 2y ago
    For me, I like that HeyNote auto saves to buffer.txt and I can have a crib job auto commit that to git at regular intervals.
    - kjksf 2y ago
      You can do that with Edna too. Store notes on disk (https://edna.arslexis.io/help-win#storing-notes-on-disk https://edna.arslexis.io/help-win#storing-notes-on-disk) and you can auto commit the whole directory with git. Personally I store my notes (encrypted with a password) on directory managed with OneDrive. Edna also auto-saves files.
  - kjksf 2y ago
    If you store notes on disk, which is what I do, you can back them up with any file backup tool. I store my notes (encrypted with a password) on OneDrive. See https://edna.arslexis.io/help-win#storing-notes-on-disk https://edna.arslexis.io/help-win#storing-notes-on-disk I even have a settings option for a daily backup which exports all notes into a single .zip file in `backups` sub-directory. Not sure if it makes much sense, but it's there.
babo 2y ago
If you have git, golang and bun/nodejs on your machine it works from localhost. git clone git@github.com:kjk/edna.git cd edna/server && go get && go build && cd .. ./server/server -build-local-prod ./server/server -run-local-prod
kjksf 2y ago
Desktop would be easy to do but seems a bit pointless. You can install a PWA shortcut which gives you even more desktop experience in the sense that it looks like an app separate from the browser. That is what I do. What are those corporate rules and how are they enforced? Is it about storing data? Because Edna stores the notes on your computer, it's never sent to any server.
- NoahKAndrews 2y ago
  I have Heynote configured to float on top of all other windows, to close to the tray instead of exiting entirely, and to open when I press a hotkey combo. I don't think I can do all of that with a PWA.
- vunderba 2y ago
  Uhh no... desktop isn't pointless unless you're wildly optimistic about the app website remaining online indefinitely into the future. Whereas if I have an installer or an electron app, I can copy it to a thumb drive and install it years later on a totally different machine even if your website is long gone. I personally dislike PWAs because they gave the deceptive illusion that you're installing an actual application as opposed to just a bunch of ephemeral stuff that's thrown inside the user data folder of the respective browser.
- acoustic_ghost 2y ago
  not entirely, requiring an internet connection at the start does limit use, e.g. lets say you need to travel and don't have an internet connection or just have your notebook out and about the PWA doesn't entirely cover that case

Is desktop on the roadmap? I use HeyNote (desktop) every day and the only feature I _really_ want is multiple notes. You added that, but I need desktop because of corporate rules.

pax 2y ago

desktop, or offline? isn't the PWA satisfactory?

stronglikedan 2y ago
not everyone has 24-hour online access
- spartanatreyu 2y ago
  PWAs don't need online access. They only need initial access to download them. Same with plain old websites if they're made to run offline (e.g. https://devdocs.io/offline https://devdocs.io/offline).
kiratp 2y ago
I can’t back up the data in a PWA.
- michaelrpeskin 2y ago
  For me, I like that HeyNote auto saves to buffer.txt and I can have a crib job auto commit that to git at regular intervals.
  - kjksf 2y ago
    You can do that with Edna too. Store notes on disk (https://edna.arslexis.io/help-win#storing-notes-on-disk https://edna.arslexis.io/help-win#storing-notes-on-disk) and you can auto commit the whole directory with git. Personally I store my notes (encrypted with a password) on directory managed with OneDrive. Edna also auto-saves files.
- kjksf 2y ago
  If you store notes on disk, which is what I do, you can back them up with any file backup tool. I store my notes (encrypted with a password) on OneDrive. See https://edna.arslexis.io/help-win#storing-notes-on-disk https://edna.arslexis.io/help-win#storing-notes-on-disk I even have a settings option for a daily backup which exports all notes into a single .zip file in `backups` sub-directory. Not sure if it makes much sense, but it's there.

babo 2y ago

If you have git, golang and bun/nodejs on your machine it works from localhost. git clone git@github.com:kjk/edna.git cd edna/server && go get && go build && cd .. ./server/server -build-local-prod ./server/server -run-local-prod

kjksf 2y ago

Desktop would be easy to do but seems a bit pointless. You can install a PWA shortcut which gives you even more desktop experience in the sense that it looks like an app separate from the browser. That is what I do. What are those corporate rules and how are they enforced? Is it about storing data? Because Edna stores the notes on your computer, it's never sent to any server.

NoahKAndrews 2y ago
I have Heynote configured to float on top of all other windows, to close to the tray instead of exiting entirely, and to open when I press a hotkey combo. I don't think I can do all of that with a PWA.
vunderba 2y ago
Uhh no... desktop isn't pointless unless you're wildly optimistic about the app website remaining online indefinitely into the future. Whereas if I have an installer or an electron app, I can copy it to a thumb drive and install it years later on a totally different machine even if your website is long gone. I personally dislike PWAs because they gave the deceptive illusion that you're installing an actual application as opposed to just a bunch of ephemeral stuff that's thrown inside the user data folder of the respective browser.
acoustic_ghost 2y ago
not entirely, requiring an internet connection at the start does limit use, e.g. lets say you need to travel and don't have an internet connection or just have your notebook out and about the PWA doesn't entirely cover that case