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> This guy just shared a video of people engaging in a hate crime. [...] China [...] Marine Le Pen was charged in France for promoting jihadism when she shared

by gwervc 2y ago

> This guy just shared a video of people engaging in a hate crime. [...] China [...] Marine Le Pen was charged in France for promoting jihadism when she shared a picture of a beheading or some other gorry crime to denounce daesh.

croisillon 2y ago
Marine Le Pen very much needs jihadism for people to vote for her
- deleted 2y ago
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- tivert 2y ago
  >> Marine Le Pen was charged in France for promoting jihadism when she shared a picture of a beheading or some other gorry crime to denounce daesh. > Marine Le Pen very much needs jihadism for people to vote for her Are you claiming she's actually promoting jihadism by opposing it?
  - ignoramous 2y ago
    In lieu of threat inflation (Jews control the West, Muslims want a Caliphate in Europe, etc), radicalization runs amok.
  - croisillon 2y ago
    no, i'm claiming she's promoting herself by promoting jihadism
    - tivert 2y ago
      >> Are you claiming she's actually promoting jihadism by opposing it? > no, i'm claiming she's promoting herself by promoting jihadism You're being really unclear, and the straightforward meaning of what you wrote is certainly untrue. From what I know about Marine Le Pen, she's almost certainly not "promoting jihadism" (say, as in encouraging people to join ISIS), which is the most straightforward reading. I think you probably mean she's "promoting jihadism [as a problem]," but that's boringly typical thing for politicians to do. They pretty much always promote themselves as the solution to some problem (that they often also elevate), so people choose to vote for them to solve it. The opposite is also frequently true, where other politicians attempt to play down their opponents' chosen issues in order to promote their own.
      - croisillon 2y ago
        i don't know why you care to defend her so much. far right are the best allies of jihadism, some people from her own party sold the weapons that served later in terrorist attacks
- cubefox 2y ago
  You are confusing cause and effect here.

by gwervc 2y ago

croisillon 2y ago

Marine Le Pen very much needs jihadism for people to vote for her

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tivert 2y ago
>> Marine Le Pen was charged in France for promoting jihadism when she shared a picture of a beheading or some other gorry crime to denounce daesh. > Marine Le Pen very much needs jihadism for people to vote for her Are you claiming she's actually promoting jihadism by opposing it?
- ignoramous 2y ago
  In lieu of threat inflation (Jews control the West, Muslims want a Caliphate in Europe, etc), radicalization runs amok.
- croisillon 2y ago
  no, i'm claiming she's promoting herself by promoting jihadism
  - tivert 2y ago
    >> Are you claiming she's actually promoting jihadism by opposing it? > no, i'm claiming she's promoting herself by promoting jihadism You're being really unclear, and the straightforward meaning of what you wrote is certainly untrue. From what I know about Marine Le Pen, she's almost certainly not "promoting jihadism" (say, as in encouraging people to join ISIS), which is the most straightforward reading. I think you probably mean she's "promoting jihadism [as a problem]," but that's boringly typical thing for politicians to do. They pretty much always promote themselves as the solution to some problem (that they often also elevate), so people choose to vote for them to solve it. The opposite is also frequently true, where other politicians attempt to play down their opponents' chosen issues in order to promote their own.
    - croisillon 2y ago
      i don't know why you care to defend her so much. far right are the best allies of jihadism, some people from her own party sold the weapons that served later in terrorist attacks
cubefox 2y ago
You are confusing cause and effect here.