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It says "Privacy respected" but there are Google Ads and Analytics included.

smolder 2y ago
With ads/analytics, Google and the site operator know you're hitting certain pages at certain times, but assuming what they wrote under "privacy respected" is true, none of your content is uploaded. That's an important distinction to make especially for a browser based app. It's also a very low bar IMO, but one that many other companies aren't clearing anymore, like MS, Adobe, and others.
- aloisdg 2y ago
  it is so easy to avoid Google analytics as a product developer nowadays that this is really a misplay (e.g. goatcounter, etc.)
  - liquidise 2y ago
    It is so easy to avoid GA as a web user that i’m surprised anyone concerned about this isn’t using an blocker that blocks GA scripts and requests themselves.
    - aloisdg 2y ago
      why not both?
clementpiki 2y ago
Without Analytics, I'm blind: I can't tell which feature are popular and which aren't. I need those infos to undertand where I should focus, what are users the more interested in. By "Privacy respected", I meant that I am not asking you for your email, your name, and what you do on the editor stays on your machine: no cloud uploads of your files.
- stefantalpalaru 2y ago
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- creshal 2y ago
  > Without Analytics, I'm blind: I can't tell which feature are popular and which aren't. There's plenty of alternatives to google analytics though. This sort of basic breakdown could be done with goaccess (or an awk one-liner); plausible, matomo or simple analytics would be decent options that cover most reasonable requirements.
- latexr 2y ago
  > Without Analytics, I'm blind: I can't tell which feature are popular and which aren't. I need those infos to undertand where I should focus, what are users the more interested in. I have a suggestion which has always served me well: Ask. Or don’t even ask, users will tell you what they want anyway. Analytics will only give you skewed information, as you are unable to distinguish the popularity of a feature is due to its usefulness, its prominence, or a general lack of clarity.
  - joseda-hg 2y ago
    That's a totally reasoble way to do it, but it leaves you with other blindspots People will tell you what they want anyway but also, sometimes people aren't aware of what they want or need Non visible parts of aproject tend to get neglected a lot more if you just ask your users What will get more people talking to you, a 10% speed up split among many small interactions, or a visual glitch that doesn't affect usability but it's front and center?
    - latexr 2y ago
      > sometimes people aren't aware of what they want or need And analytics won’t tell you that, so I don’t see your point. > Non visible parts of aproject tend to get neglected a lot more if you just ask your users Do they? Perhaps if you keep relying on analytics, they do. In my experience, users will just tell you anyway. And some of them will be better at feedback than others. Treasure those. Also, and this is another topic, why don’t you use periods in your sentences? Your comment was unnecessarily hard to parse.
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With ads/analytics, Google and the site operator know you're hitting certain pages at certain times, but assuming what they wrote under "privacy respected" is true, none of your content is uploaded. That's an important distinction to make especially for a browser based app. It's also a very low bar IMO, but one that many other companies aren't clearing anymore, like MS, Adobe, and others.

aloisdg 2y ago
it is so easy to avoid Google analytics as a product developer nowadays that this is really a misplay (e.g. goatcounter, etc.)
- liquidise 2y ago
  It is so easy to avoid GA as a web user that i’m surprised anyone concerned about this isn’t using an blocker that blocks GA scripts and requests themselves.
  - aloisdg 2y ago
    why not both?

clementpiki 2y ago

Without Analytics, I'm blind: I can't tell which feature are popular and which aren't. I need those infos to undertand where I should focus, what are users the more interested in. By "Privacy respected", I meant that I am not asking you for your email, your name, and what you do on the editor stays on your machine: no cloud uploads of your files.

stefantalpalaru 2y ago
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creshal 2y ago
> Without Analytics, I'm blind: I can't tell which feature are popular and which aren't. There's plenty of alternatives to google analytics though. This sort of basic breakdown could be done with goaccess (or an awk one-liner); plausible, matomo or simple analytics would be decent options that cover most reasonable requirements.
latexr 2y ago
> Without Analytics, I'm blind: I can't tell which feature are popular and which aren't. I need those infos to undertand where I should focus, what are users the more interested in. I have a suggestion which has always served me well: Ask. Or don’t even ask, users will tell you what they want anyway. Analytics will only give you skewed information, as you are unable to distinguish the popularity of a feature is due to its usefulness, its prominence, or a general lack of clarity.
- joseda-hg 2y ago
  That's a totally reasoble way to do it, but it leaves you with other blindspots People will tell you what they want anyway but also, sometimes people aren't aware of what they want or need Non visible parts of aproject tend to get neglected a lot more if you just ask your users What will get more people talking to you, a 10% speed up split among many small interactions, or a visual glitch that doesn't affect usability but it's front and center?
  - latexr 2y ago
    > sometimes people aren't aware of what they want or need And analytics won’t tell you that, so I don’t see your point. > Non visible parts of aproject tend to get neglected a lot more if you just ask your users Do they? Perhaps if you keep relying on analytics, they do. In my experience, users will just tell you anyway. And some of them will be better at feedback than others. Treasure those. Also, and this is another topic, why don’t you use periods in your sentences? Your comment was unnecessarily hard to parse.

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