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I understand that tall trees a threat to capital and maybe also to human life when one falls over near a house, but do we really need to chop them down? Can we

I understand that tall trees a threat to capital and maybe also to human life when one falls over near a house, but do we really need to chop them down? Can we not add metal struts between a house and a tall tree, to reinforce its strength, rather than preemptively cut it every time?

short_sells_poo 2y ago
Unfortunately the decision is often made based on costs, and chopping them down is cheaper than employing an arborist (?) to make sure the tree is reinforced properly. Please don't get me wrong, I agree with you. In many historic cities, there are trees that are hundreds of years old. There are trees that have been around since before the invention of the telegraph, lived through 2 world wars and are still going strong! There are efforts to keep these alive, but I feel newly planted trees won't get the chance to live that long :(
- lukan 2y ago
  "There are trees that have been around since before the invention of the telegraph" There are trees, that are allmost 5000 years old, so around the time humans started building cities. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_trees https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_trees The oldest tree in a city might be this one, 2300 years old, living history. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaya_Sri_Maha_Bodhi https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaya_Sri_Maha_Bodhi Around here, they also plan to chop down a lot of trees that are around 200 years old, because the road repairs are cheaper with them gone. I hope it does not get to it as resistance is forming, but I might consider climbing and sitting there to block it.
silon42 2y ago
Simpler/better to plant a new tree.
- pvaldes 2y ago
  Plant a new tree and then pay air conditioner for 20 years until the tree grows again. Simpler yes; better not so much, if you take in mind all the hidden costs. Of course sometimes the tree is rotten or will fall over your home, and it must go before that happens.
Hikikomori 2y ago
Too much KSP?
stuaxo 2y ago
The tree just needs to be managed, the whole thing doesn't need to be cut down. I'm in London on a tree lined street, every year they come and cut branches. If trees are rotten then they are cut (we have a lot of non-native trees). In this bit of London there's a target to plant much more trees, so any cut down are replaced with a native tree. Property developers are a different matter, I'm pretty sure the huge tree behind the flat I used to live in was illegally cut down; if the council had been aware it would probably have had a tree protection order put on it.
Joel_Mckay 2y ago
It is a $10k fine to cut down any tree over 6" in diameter without a permit in our city. We have many cherry trees that form a pink-petal snow every year, that were planted after hostilities ceased with Japan in WWII: Accolade, Afterglow, Akebono, Ama-no-gawa, Atsumori, Autumnalis Rosea, Avium Plena, Beni-shidare, Birch Bark Cherry, Choshu-hizakura, Fudan-zakura, Gyoiko, Hosokawa-nioi, Ichihara-tora-no-o, Ichiyo, Ito-kukuri, Ito-zakura, Jo-nioi, Jugatsu-zakura, Kanzan, Kiku-shidare-zakura, Kiku-zakura, Korean Hill Cherry, Mikuruma-gaeshi, O-yama-zakura, Ojochin, Okame, Oshima-zakura, Pandora, Pink Perfection, Rancho, Sargent Hybrid Cherry, Schmitt Cherry, Sendai-shidare, Shiro-fugen, Shirotae, Shogetsu, Shosar, Shujaku, Snofozam, Snow Goose, Somei-yoshino, Spire, Star Cherry, Tai-haku, Takasago, Taki-nioi, Ukon, Umineko, Washi-no-o, Whitcomb, Yae-beni-shidare, Yama-zakura, Yokihi Fruit trees consume a lot of water, thus many cities should consider drought resistant options to reduce sun baked roads. Some don't like the trees due to superstitions, but most enjoy the reminder Spring has arrived. =3

short_sells_poo 2y ago

Unfortunately the decision is often made based on costs, and chopping them down is cheaper than employing an arborist (?) to make sure the tree is reinforced properly. Please don't get me wrong, I agree with you. In many historic cities, there are trees that are hundreds of years old. There are trees that have been around since before the invention of the telegraph, lived through 2 world wars and are still going strong! There are efforts to keep these alive, but I feel newly planted trees won't get the chance to live that long :(

lukan 2y ago
"There are trees that have been around since before the invention of the telegraph" There are trees, that are allmost 5000 years old, so around the time humans started building cities. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_trees https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_trees The oldest tree in a city might be this one, 2300 years old, living history. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaya_Sri_Maha_Bodhi https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaya_Sri_Maha_Bodhi Around here, they also plan to chop down a lot of trees that are around 200 years old, because the road repairs are cheaper with them gone. I hope it does not get to it as resistance is forming, but I might consider climbing and sitting there to block it.

silon42 2y ago

Simpler/better to plant a new tree.

pvaldes 2y ago
Plant a new tree and then pay air conditioner for 20 years until the tree grows again. Simpler yes; better not so much, if you take in mind all the hidden costs. Of course sometimes the tree is rotten or will fall over your home, and it must go before that happens.

Hikikomori 2y ago

Too much KSP?

stuaxo 2y ago

The tree just needs to be managed, the whole thing doesn't need to be cut down. I'm in London on a tree lined street, every year they come and cut branches. If trees are rotten then they are cut (we have a lot of non-native trees). In this bit of London there's a target to plant much more trees, so any cut down are replaced with a native tree. Property developers are a different matter, I'm pretty sure the huge tree behind the flat I used to live in was illegally cut down; if the council had been aware it would probably have had a tree protection order put on it.

Joel_Mckay 2y ago

It is a $10k fine to cut down any tree over 6" in diameter without a permit in our city. We have many cherry trees that form a pink-petal snow every year, that were planted after hostilities ceased with Japan in WWII: Accolade, Afterglow, Akebono, Ama-no-gawa, Atsumori, Autumnalis Rosea, Avium Plena, Beni-shidare, Birch Bark Cherry, Choshu-hizakura, Fudan-zakura, Gyoiko, Hosokawa-nioi, Ichihara-tora-no-o, Ichiyo, Ito-kukuri, Ito-zakura, Jo-nioi, Jugatsu-zakura, Kanzan, Kiku-shidare-zakura, Kiku-zakura, Korean Hill Cherry, Mikuruma-gaeshi, O-yama-zakura, Ojochin, Okame, Oshima-zakura, Pandora, Pink Perfection, Rancho, Sargent Hybrid Cherry, Schmitt Cherry, Sendai-shidare, Shiro-fugen, Shirotae, Shogetsu, Shosar, Shujaku, Snofozam, Snow Goose, Somei-yoshino, Spire, Star Cherry, Tai-haku, Takasago, Taki-nioi, Ukon, Umineko, Washi-no-o, Whitcomb, Yae-beni-shidare, Yama-zakura, Yokihi Fruit trees consume a lot of water, thus many cities should consider drought resistant options to reduce sun baked roads. Some don't like the trees due to superstitions, but most enjoy the reminder Spring has arrived. =3