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Why? Letting people know if a part is genuine empowers the user. I can’t think of a single reason that giving them more information is a bad thing. The last ti

Why? Letting people know if a part is genuine empowers the user. I can’t think of a single reason that giving them more information is a bad thing. The last time they didn’t let people know about battery information they were fined heavily, even though it prevented unwanted behaviour (reboots). If a third party battery can’t supply peak current demand, they will have to alert.

PontifexMinimus 2y ago
> Letting people know if a part is genuine empowers the user. And putting DRM on hardware to prevent people using third-party peripherals disempowers the user, and should be illegal.
- thebruce87m 2y ago
  > And putting DRM on hardware to prevent people using third-party peripherals disempowers the user, and should be illegal. This is not relevant to this discussion.
  - g15jv2dp 2y ago
    Who are you to decide that? I find the concern very relevant to the discussion.
    - thebruce87m 2y ago
      Because in my original reply I said “alerts” and not “blocks using drm”? I have a preference for OEM parts. Other people can use a third party battery. Given the fire hazard on cheap batteries, I’ll pass.
      - PontifexMinimus 2y ago
        > Because in my original reply I said “alerts” and not “blocks using drm”? And how soon before manufacturers move from the first to the second, if they are not stopped by law? I have no objection to alerts per se, as long as it is done in a non-obnoxious way.
        thebruce87m 2y ago
        Not sure, but if it was my own company I’d want to block third party batteries to ensure my users get the experience that I have designed and tested for. If that wasn’t legal, then I’d want to at least log it. That way when someone claims my product burned down their house, I would have proof that it wasn’t my battery that did it. This isn’t bullet proof however- if you are a big enough company the media headlines will still have your product in the headline, and you’d be lucky if the main body mentioned the manufacturer of the fault-causing component.
microtherion 2y ago
Ah, I think I get the disconnect between you and others (including me) in this discussion: Currently, iPhones REFUSE to work if certain parts are not genuine. Theoretically, it would be possible to do the detection strictly on an informational basis ("Your battery is not a genuine Apple part. Go ahead, but don't blame us for issues.")

PontifexMinimus 2y ago

> Letting people know if a part is genuine empowers the user. And putting DRM on hardware to prevent people using third-party peripherals disempowers the user, and should be illegal.

thebruce87m 2y ago
> And putting DRM on hardware to prevent people using third-party peripherals disempowers the user, and should be illegal. This is not relevant to this discussion.
- g15jv2dp 2y ago
  Who are you to decide that? I find the concern very relevant to the discussion.
  - thebruce87m 2y ago
    Because in my original reply I said “alerts” and not “blocks using drm”? I have a preference for OEM parts. Other people can use a third party battery. Given the fire hazard on cheap batteries, I’ll pass.
    - PontifexMinimus 2y ago
      > Because in my original reply I said “alerts” and not “blocks using drm”? And how soon before manufacturers move from the first to the second, if they are not stopped by law? I have no objection to alerts per se, as long as it is done in a non-obnoxious way.
      - thebruce87m 2y ago
        Not sure, but if it was my own company I’d want to block third party batteries to ensure my users get the experience that I have designed and tested for. If that wasn’t legal, then I’d want to at least log it. That way when someone claims my product burned down their house, I would have proof that it wasn’t my battery that did it. This isn’t bullet proof however- if you are a big enough company the media headlines will still have your product in the headline, and you’d be lucky if the main body mentioned the manufacturer of the fault-causing component.

microtherion 2y ago

Ah, I think I get the disconnect between you and others (including me) in this discussion: Currently, iPhones REFUSE to work if certain parts are not genuine. Theoretically, it would be possible to do the detection strictly on an informational basis ("Your battery is not a genuine Apple part. Go ahead, but don't blame us for issues.")