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> Payments Canada, found that a majority of respondents were worried about the prospect of cashless stores and want to maintain the option to use cash — which i

> Payments Canada, found that a majority of respondents were worried about the prospect of cashless stores and want to maintain the option to use cash — which is free from bank fees I mean, that is the problem right there. We don't generally have that problem in Europe because we don't rely on credit cards. Here's there no extra fee for using Apple Pay or Google Wallet. Pay with cash, your card, NFC... it's all the same. Stop using credit cards might be a good step for the USA. I don't know much about Canada to be honest and how it works over there, and if it's CC centric like the USA.

gary_0 2y ago
There's a debit card system in Canada called Interac that should be free, but depending on the bank and account type, the bank will give you a very limited number of transactions per month (like 10 or 20). After that, every time you use your card you get charged a significant fee. Canadians get ridiculously nickel-and-dimed by banks, telecoms, retail, etc, compared to most other countries, which is part of why our cost of living is ridiculously high.
- xyzzy_plugh 2y ago
  This is weird. I've never been charged a fee for using Interac. Sure, there are accounts for which you are discouraged from transacting daily, but this is true in the United States as well, in my experience. No one is being forced to use an inappropriate account type as a daily driver. Most accounts have a minimum balance requirement, which is usually pretty low, to avoid any fees. ATM fees on the other hand are a different story. In other words, it's trivial to maintain an account and use Interac for... everything. I know of many folks who do not even have, and have never had, a credit card.
  - gary_0 2y ago
    This is mostly a problem that affects poorer people, I suspect. I know people living paycheck-to-paycheck, who can't leave thousands of dollars lying around in their checking account, who are hesitant to use Interac because of the fees. Also, most people don't go to the trouble to shop around banks looking for a better deal.
    - xyzzy_plugh 2y ago
      I looked and you're right, and I was wrong. It looks like most accounts have huge minimums and limited transactions. The student and senior accounts are the only real winners.
somerandomqaguy 2y ago
Not credit card fees, bank fees. Almost every bank account in Canada has some sort of monthly service fees associated with them. You need to have a considerable amount of wealth accumulated in order for those fees to be waived. If my understanding of how Europeans bank is correct, such fees aren't as common.
- NeoTar 2y ago
  You are not correct. Having a monthly fee for a bank account (typically around 5 EUR) is common in Germany.
  - fzil 2y ago
    to expand on the parent's comment a little bit as well, most of these canadian bank accounts also have fees per interac transaction depending on the account. The richer the person, the more money in your account and more fees you can get waived. until recently I would not send interac e-transfers because it would cost me $.50 per transaction after the first 5.

gary_0 2y ago

There's a debit card system in Canada called Interac that should be free, but depending on the bank and account type, the bank will give you a very limited number of transactions per month (like 10 or 20). After that, every time you use your card you get charged a significant fee. Canadians get ridiculously nickel-and-dimed by banks, telecoms, retail, etc, compared to most other countries, which is part of why our cost of living is ridiculously high.

xyzzy_plugh 2y ago
This is weird. I've never been charged a fee for using Interac. Sure, there are accounts for which you are discouraged from transacting daily, but this is true in the United States as well, in my experience. No one is being forced to use an inappropriate account type as a daily driver. Most accounts have a minimum balance requirement, which is usually pretty low, to avoid any fees. ATM fees on the other hand are a different story. In other words, it's trivial to maintain an account and use Interac for... everything. I know of many folks who do not even have, and have never had, a credit card.
- gary_0 2y ago
  This is mostly a problem that affects poorer people, I suspect. I know people living paycheck-to-paycheck, who can't leave thousands of dollars lying around in their checking account, who are hesitant to use Interac because of the fees. Also, most people don't go to the trouble to shop around banks looking for a better deal.
  - xyzzy_plugh 2y ago
    I looked and you're right, and I was wrong. It looks like most accounts have huge minimums and limited transactions. The student and senior accounts are the only real winners.

somerandomqaguy 2y ago

Not credit card fees, bank fees. Almost every bank account in Canada has some sort of monthly service fees associated with them. You need to have a considerable amount of wealth accumulated in order for those fees to be waived. If my understanding of how Europeans bank is correct, such fees aren't as common.

NeoTar 2y ago
You are not correct. Having a monthly fee for a bank account (typically around 5 EUR) is common in Germany.
- fzil 2y ago
  to expand on the parent's comment a little bit as well, most of these canadian bank accounts also have fees per interac transaction depending on the account. The richer the person, the more money in your account and more fees you can get waived. until recently I would not send interac e-transfers because it would cost me $.50 per transaction after the first 5.